XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, sci.crypt   
   From: info@tcpreset.invalid   
      
   Anonymous User wrote:   
   > Read the Tor specs and you'll find out that no node gets any information   
   > about circuit length.   
      
   You're correct that individual nodes cannot determine circuit length   
   from their position in the chain.   
      
   However, you're confusing node-level visibility with network-level   
   observability.   
      
   https://support.torproject.org/misc/misc-11/   
      
   >> The Tor Browser Bundle locks down everything (window size, fonts,   
   >> JavaScript behavior) specifically to prevent fingerprinting.   
   >>   
   >> Yet you think running 7-hop circuits makes you invisible?   
   >> You're making yourself *more* identifiable, not less.   
   >   
   > Wrong.   
      
   You keep ignoring actual research:   
      
   - USENIX Security 2015: "Circuit Fingerprinting Attacks" 98%+ accuracy   
   in identifying non-standard circuits.   
      
   - Traffic analysis can distinguish modified circuits even when   
   application traffic is identical.   
      
      
   > I provided evidence, you contributed nothing.   
      
   Blagger   
      
   Non-standard circuits are fingerprint-able with 98%+ accuracy.   
      
   https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity15/technical-ses   
   ions/presentation/kwon   
      
   You demanded proof. There it is.   
   Official Tor Project says you're wrong. Academic research confirms it.   
      
   Show me ONE official Tor document recommending 7-hop circuits.   
      
   You fundamentally misunderstand hidden service architecture.   
      
   Yes, I control three hidden services: SMTP gateway, mail2news, and NNTP   
   server.   
      
   But I control just  the application endpoints, not the the Tor circuits.   
      
   Conar !!!   
      
      
   Gabx   
      
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