XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox   
   From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 08:36:18 -0500, micky wrote:   
      
   > In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 10 Feb 2026 14:40:18 -0800,   
   > Mike Easter  wrote:   
   >   
   >>  - VPNs get more attention than they deserve   
   >   
   > The only reason I can think for your 3rd point here is that they are   
   > not needed for security, yes?   
      
   They are very much about security. The idea started with IPSec, which   
   is a truly mind-boggling set of mechanisms for setting up secure   
   layer-3 connections between networks. Other VPN apps were created as   
   simpler alternatives to this -- yes, even OpenVPN, with its slightly   
   bewildering array of options, is simpler than IPSec.   
      
   And now we have WireGuard, which tries to make things about as simple   
   as they can be.   
      
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