From: user6340@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   JTEM  posted:   
   > On 12/16/25 6:30 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >   
   > > Maybe. We don't know the heartache he and his wife   
   > > suffered while dealing with their son's addiction   
   > > to drugs.   
   >   
   > I spent a lot of time with Mick's song writer, Matt   
   > Gilbert yesterday. He even bought me lunch!   
   >   
   > He's on Methadone, and has been, except for the back   
   > slides, for years & years.   
   >   
   > Drug addiction is common place. And supposedly his   
   > son started at 15.   
   >   
   > 15.   
   >   
   > Cigarettes were the best I could afford at 15.   
   >   
   > But even if he wasn't a contributor to his own demise:   
   >   
   > >> Reiner is a life you celebrate, Kirk's life was stolen from   
   > >> him. He was really only starting out, had another 35 years   
   > >> to go!   
   >   
   > He had a wonderful life, and I think it more appropriate to   
   > celebrate that life than mourn his death.   
      
   Yes, we celebrate his life. But we also mourn the   
   horrific way he and his wife were murdered by their   
   own child. It's beyond tragic, it is truly evil.   
   >   
   > Charlie Kirk was murdered by a stranger, taken at 31.   
   >   
   > Compared to Rob Reiner, Kirk had another 47 years to go.   
      
   Yes, I agree. But I doubt Rob Reiner thought he   
   was at the very end of his life when he was at   
   that party the night before. Or whatever else   
   he was doing on Sunday. A lot of people live   
   well into their 80s and beyond. Rob Reiner's   
   and his wife's lives were cut short as well.   
   >   
   > >> I think everyone feels "Rage" at some point. I wonder what   
   > >> normalized violence to the point that it was an acceptable   
   > >> solution for him?   
   >   
   > > The drugs must have contributed to that. People can   
   > > do some outrageous things when their mind is taken   
   > > over by drugs.   
   >   
   > Fact is that most druggies like drugs. They like taking drugs.   
   > And addiction is both physical and psychological. I wonder if   
   > they caught him at the party taking drugs and told him that   
   > they were cutting him off again, or ordering him into rehab   
   > "Or else."   
      
   Probably a good possibility for the argument that   
   night, and then what happened the next day.   
   >   
   > >> I could blame society or I could wonder out loud.   
   >   
   > > We can blame society for the fact that drugs have   
   > > become such a part of our society.   
   >   
   > Maybe he decided his parents were fascists. That would make   
   > it okay.   
      
   Apparently so.   
      
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