From: theirony2013@gmail.com
On 2025-12-16 16:46, Steven Douglas wrote:
>
> Mike posted:
>> On 2025-12-16 15:31, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>> Mike posted:
>>>> On 2025-12-16 15:24, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>> Mike posted:
>>>>>> On 2025-12-16 12:43, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>> Mike posted:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-12-16 11:27, Mike wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-12-16 11:14, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> DocUFO posted:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who can make war with the Beast?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder, Doc, when the Antichrist makes his
>>>>>>>>>> appearance on the world stage, he will INSTANTLY be
>>>>>>>>>> loved by the WHOLE WORLD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where does the Bible say that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You provided the answer at the bottom of your post.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Bible does not explicitly say that
>>>>>>>> the Antichrist will be instantly loved
>>>>>>>> by the whole world.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, some passages describe a figure
>>>>>>>> who gains global attention, or influence,
>>>>>>>> often associated with deception.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let’s break it down carefully.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Key passages often referenced:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2 Thessalonians 2:3–4 (NIV)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for
>>>>>>>> that day will not come until the rebellion
>>>>>>>> occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed,
>>>>>>>> the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose
>>>>>>>> and will exalt himself over everything that is
>>>>>>>> called God or is worshiped, so that he sets
>>>>>>>> himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself
>>>>>>>> to be God."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This describes the Man of Lawlessness (commonly
>>>>>>>> identified with the Antichrist) as being revealed to
>>>>>>>> the world, exalting himself, and deceiving people.
>>>>>>>> It emphasizes his boldness and influence, but it does
>>>>>>>> not say everyone will instantly love him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Revelation 13:3–8 (NIV)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "One of its heads seemed to have had a fatal wound,
>>>>>>>> but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world
>>>>>>>> was filled with wonder and followed the beast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There it is. As far as I know, the whole world is
>>>>>>> not following Trump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Bible still doesn't have the words that you
>>>>>> outlined in capitals.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't use quotation marks, but the Bible says he
>>>>> will be worshipped by ALL who will still be living
>>>>> in this world:
>>>>
>>>> The only thing that everyone worships is MONEY !!!
>>>
>>> Not everyone. The Bible specifically instructs us
>>> to NOT worship money.
>>
>> What does 'worship' mean to you in a monetary sense?
>
> It would mean putting the love of money ahead of
> all else. Ahead of God, ahead of family, ahead of
> friends.
>>
>> To me the definition is Capitalism is the worship of money.
>
> Capitalism allows for that kind of worship, but
> capitalism is the ONE economic system in this
> world that takes care of more people -- better --
> than any other system that exists. No, it's
> not perfect, but then NOTHING in this world
> is perfect. To expect perfection of anything
> in this world is not being realistic.
Cockroaches and bees don't use capitalism as far as
I know, yet they are some of the most successful creatures
on the planet. Maybe we can learn something from the
insects.
>
> But when you compare capitalism to every other
> system, there are none better at taking care of
> the most people in the best way possible. Just
> look around the world at all the failed nations
> and their failed economic systems.
>
> Oh, and before you cite Sweden or some other
> "socialist" economy, keep in mind that Sweden
> actually has a capitalist economy with their
> social programs mixed in, which are funded by
> the capitalist economy.
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