From: user6340@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   DocUFO posted:   
   > On 12/19/2025 6:09 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > > DocUFO posted:   
   > >> On 12/19/2025 3:28 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>> You know, Doc, I do realize that Trump is a flawed   
   > >>> man. You know that I didn't want him to run on a   
   > >>> third-party ticket in 2012. I didn't vote for him   
   > >>> in the 2016 primary (I voted for Ted Cruz). When   
   > >>> I did finally decide to vote for him (which didn't   
   > >>> happen until the Friday before the 2016 general   
   > >>> election), I voted for him based on promises he   
   > >>> made to select pro-life nominees to the Supreme   
   > >>> Court, along with his promise to move our embassy   
   > >>> in Israel to Jerusalem.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> So I cast my vote and I held my breath and hoped   
   > >>> he would follow through on those promises. Well,   
   > >>> he did. And not only that, but he FIXED the VA   
   > >>> Health Care system that was badly broken before   
   > >>> Trump fixed it. Not to mention all the other   
   > >>> good things Trump did, so maybe you might be   
   > >>> able to understand why I can choose to vote   
   > >>> for Trump over people who were purposely   
   > >>> WRECKING our country?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> No, with your level of TDS, I doubt you'll   
   > >>> ever understand why some of us voted for Trump   
   > >>> the first time, with a GROWING number of voters   
   > >>> voting for him two more times. No, you'll never   
   > >>> understand. And I really don't care that you   
   > >>> will never understand. It's your problem.   
   > >>   
   > >> So, now, you begin   
   > >   
   > > Begin? Is your memory really so bad that you don't   
   > > know that I've made no secret of why I voted for   
   > > Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024?   
   > >>   
   > >> a prevarication process   
   > >   
   > > Sheesh, incredible. Far from that, I have always   
   > > PROCLAIMED why I voted for Trump in 2016, 2020,   
   > > and 2024.   
   > >>   
   > >> detailing your reasons for voting for, constantly   
   > >> defending and counter-attacking   
   > >   
   > > Since your memory seems to be failing you, allow   
   > > me to remind you of what I've been writing on this   
   > > group for many years -- the following is from 2019,   
   > > because Google's archive doesn't seem to go back as   
   > > far as it once did. But this will do quite nicely,   
   > > as I wrote it to you in response to your criticism   
   > > of me then:   
   > >   
   > > [quoting myself from 2019] You've got this idea that it's   
   > > only about money, but there is so much more than that.   
   > > For example, one of the main reasons I voted for Trump was   
   > > because of his list of potential Supreme Court nominees,   
   > > two of which he has already put on the court!   
   > >   
   > > In addition to that, there are all the federal judges he   
   > > is putting on other federal courts! This is important to   
   > > me, for reasons having nothing to do with money. But you,   
   > > in your single-minded simpleness, cannot understand this.   
   > >   
   > > There was also his promise to move the embassy in Israel   
   > > to Jerusalem. After the false promises of presidents of   
   > > the past, Trump finally lived up to that promise!   
   > >   
   > > I'm also enjoying the way he has taken on the DC swamp,   
   > > which is a cabal of liberal government employees backed   
   > > by the establishment wing of the Republican Party, which   
   > > demands that our border be left wide open. The swamp has   
   > > decreed that anyone and everyone who wants to walk across   
   > > our border should be allowed to, with no interference of   
   > > any kind.   
   > >   
   > > The Democratic Party's wing of the swamp wants the illegal   
   > > aliens here so that they'll have babies who grow up to   
   > > vote for Democrats. That's what they have already done to   
   > > California over the past 33 years (since the last amnesty,   
   > > which only increased the numbers of illegal aliens coming   
   > > across the border.   
   > >   
   > > The Republican Party's wing of the swamp want the illegal   
   > > aliens here for the cheap labor they provide, thereby   
   > > causing a new subclass of cheap laborers to drive down   
   > > wages for everyone else, which benefits the wealthy donors   
   > > of to the Republican Party.   
   > >   
   > > Along with the new subclass of laborers (who must live in   
   > > households of 12 or 15 people in order to make ends meet),   
   > > the Democratic Party gets the added benefit of having a   
   > > whole new flock of people to take care of with taxpayer   
   > > money.   
   > >   
   > > This is what Trump is fighting, and it's a tough fight   
   > > because there are so many leftists who support the open   
   > > border concept, which benefits the wealthy businessmen   
   > > who want the cheap labor, which adds to the subclass of   
   > > people who need to be taken care of by the Democratic   
   > > Party, which is the basis of the Democratic Party's   
   > > power. [end quoting myself]   
   > >   
   > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/_el   
   u81Fr-I/m/lmumqiURCgAJ   
   > >   
   > > So, as you can see, Doc, whatever you falsely imagine   
   > > that I "begin" to "prevaricate" or whatever you said,   
   > > nothing could be further from the truth. And whatever   
   > > "guilt" or whatever else you falsely wrote about me,   
   > > I actually PROCLAIM that I voted for Trump THREE times,   
   > > and I have told you why multiple times.   
   > >   
   > > Whatever you think you're accomplishing by LYING about   
   > > me the way you just did, think again. You've got nothing   
   > > but a lot of bluster born of your TDS, and your bluster   
   > > doesn't work on me.   
   >   
   > prevarication   
   > noun [ U ] formal   
   > uk /prɪˌvær.ɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ us /prɪˌver.əˈkeɪ.ʃən/   
   >   
   > the fact of avoiding telling the truth or saying exactly what you think:   
      
   I have always said exactly what I think.   
   >   
   > All my attempts to question the authorities on the subject were met by   
   > prevarication.   
   > It was his prevarication that caused him to lose the election.   
   > See   
   > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/prevarication   
   >   
   > The simple fact is that you spent years here not giving one millimeter   
   > to any argument against DJT, and now you explain how you weren't so   
   > jolly and agreeable about him 6 years ago.   
      
   As YOU have reminded me from time to time, I wasn't   
   a fan of Trump when he first started talking about   
   running for president. There is nothing new about   
   that, and I've made no secret that I wasn't a fan   
   of his. So whatever it is that you think you're   
   accomplishing right now, with whatever case you   
   think you're making, the TRUTH is that I was not   
   a fan of Trump prior to him actually becoming   
   president.   
      
   And you KNOW this, since you have reminded me on   
   more than one occasion that I didn't want him to   
   run in 2012.   
      
   And with that, I'm not even going to bother with   
   the rest of your long-winded post, as your TDS   
   is really becoming tedious.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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