From: theirony2013@gmail.com
On 2025-12-20 11:13, Steven Douglas wrote:
>
> Mike posted:
>> On 2025-12-19 17:53, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>> Mike posted:
>>>> On 2025-12-19 16:31, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>> Mike posted:
>>>>>> On 2025-12-19 15:11, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>> Mike posted:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-12-19 11:13, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mike posted:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-12-18 16:33, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike posted:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-12-18 14:38, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike posted:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-12-17 22:26, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike posted:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder why Satan and Steven sound so similar?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did that dumb AI thing tell you that, or did you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it up all by yourself?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are both two syllables with 'S', 't', 'n' in common.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what? A lot of words sound alike that have nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do with each other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But people still make obvious associations.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's true, I associate your name with a microphone.
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you a microphone because you have the same nickname
>>>>>>>>>>> as a microphone?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do have quite a few microphones if you are interested,
>>>>>>>>>> to many to count, if that matters.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But that doesn't make you a microphone, despite the
>>>>>>>>> fact that you share a nickname with microphones.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do like cooking too,
>>>>>>>>>> as you might have noticed, so my names are all relevant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Last names were once determined by a person's
>>>>>>>>> occupation. Was cooking ever your occupation?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did work at McDonald for a couple days. and
>>>>>>>> I helped bake pies at church.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course you inherited your name from one of your
>>>>>>> ancestors of the past, who was most likely a real
>>>>>>> cook -- and that's how he got his name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is a well known fact that names convert meanings, and
>>>>>>>>>> some believe they also shape personalities.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So that would mean you're a microphone that also
>>>>>>>>> does some cooking. Got it. As for me, I have never
>>>>>>>>> even thought of the false association you've tried
>>>>>>>>> (and failed ) to associate with my name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your name brings up impressions of Satan,and the Devil.
>>>>>>>> What's false about that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's false about it is what Google's AI thing has
>>>>>>> to say about it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [quoting an AI thing] "The name Steven, a variant of Stephen,
>>>>>>> comes from the Greek word Stephanos, meaning "crown," "garland,"
>>>>>>> or "wreath," symbolizing honor and victory from ancient contests,
>>>>>>> and gained popularity in Christianity through Saint Stephen, the
>>>>>>> first martyr. It's a classic, strong name with Greek roots,
>>>>>>> meaning "crowned one" or "victorious," carrying connotations
>>>>>>> of honor and achievement." [end quoting]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael comes from the Hebrew name מִיכָאֵל (Mīkhāʾēl).
>>>>>> It literally means: “Who is like God?”
>>>>>
>>>>> That's great. I haven't made an issue of your name,
>>>>> so why are you repeating this to me -- as it seems
>>>>> you told me this not all that long ago?
>>>>
>>>> I thought you might be jealous I have a Hebrew name.
>>>> Stephen is merely Greek.
>>>
>>> Is it really important to you that I be jealous
>>> of you? If so, why? Just so you know, the thought
>>> has never crossed my mind to be jealous of your
>>> name. Just so you know. I'm very happy with my name.
>>>>
>>>>>>> You can verify that with that AI thing you use. I choose
>>>>>>> to associate myself with Saint Stephen, and to renounce
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one who got stoned to death by the Jews?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why he's the first martyr.
>>>>
>>>> He was a blasphemer. From there perspective
>>>> he was justifiably stoned.
>>>
>>> They probably wouldn't have done it if they thought
>>> they were justified doing it. Jesus also suffered
>>> his own murder. The people who did that were wrong.
>>> Or are you trying to tell me that you agree with
>>> them for having done what they did?
>>
>> The Bible is clear what should be done with
>> those who break the law.
>
> The stoning of Stephen was not a legally conducted
> execution, it was perpetrated by an out-of-control
> angry mob. Ask your AI thing if it thinks the stoning
> of Stephen was a properly conducted execution under
> Jewish law. I'm very interested in what it has to say.
St. Stephen was stoned around c. AD 34–35,
shortly after Jesus’ crucifixion. At that
time, the Jewish religious authorities (the
Sanhedrin) were enforcing the Torah as
interpreted by Jewish law. The first commandment,
“You shall have no other gods before Me,”
prohibited worship of any deity other than the
God of Israel. From their perspective, proclaiming
that Jesus was divine could indeed be seen as
blasphemy or idolatry, which was considered a
capital offense under Jewish law (Leviticus 24:16).
So yes, from the standpoint of the Jewish authorities
of the time, the stoning could be seen as “legal”
according to their interpretation of the law.
Importantly:
The New Testament didn’t exist yet, so there was no
canonical text to validate Jesus’ divinity.
The charge against Stephen was specifically blasphemy
(Acts 6:13–14; 7:57–60). He was accused of speaking
against Moses and God, which the Sanhedrin treated
as a violation of the law.
Roman law also applied in Judea at the time, but for
internal Jewish religious offenses, the Sanhedrin
could carry out executions, though technically stoning
required Roman approval for capital punishment—historically,
small groups sometimes proceeded anyway.
So, legally speaking, the stoning of Stephen was justified
under Jewish law at the time, though from a Roman law
perspective, it might have been technically extra-legal.
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