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   On 2026-01-04 17:54, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >   
   > Mike  posted:   
   >> On 2026-01-04 17:29, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>> Mike  posted:   
   >>>> On 2026-01-04 16:57, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>>>> Mike  posted:   
   >>>>>> On 2026-01-03 22:36, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>>>>>> JTEM  posted:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The question isn't what is or is not in the bible   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yes, actually it is the question -- and I answered the   
   >>>>>>> question in the first post in this thread. I see you   
   >>>>>>> have no response to what I actually provided.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> or even what some dictionary says,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You can't dismiss it that easily. Or rather, yes you   
   >>>>>>> can dismiss it in your own mind, but you can't dismiss   
   >>>>>>> it for those of us who believe what the Bible actually   
   >>>>>>> says.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> the question is what Christian fundamentalism   
   >>>>>>>> believes and has propagated for generations.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm a Bible-believing Christian. I believe the Bible.   
   >>>>>>> I don't care about doctrines, I don't care about labels   
   >>>>>>> you choose for me. I only care what the Bible actually   
   >>>>>>> says -- and what the Bible says is that we will be   
   >>>>>>> CAUGHT UP and meet Jesus in the air. What does that   
   >>>>>>> sound like to you?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The air gets very thin up there, difficult to breathe.   
   >>>>>> You might pass out.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That's why our bodies need to be changed before we can   
   >>>>> go up to meet Jesus in the air. I made sure to provide   
   >>>>> that scripture in the first post in this thread. It's   
   >>>>> there, you must have missed it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> How far up will you go?   
   >>>   
   >>> That's up to Jesus. I quoted the scripture in the first   
   >>> post in this thread, in which Jesus said:   
   >>>   
   >>> "In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so,   
   >>> would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for   
   >>> you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come   
   >>> again and will take you to myself, that where I am you   
   >>> may be also." John 14:2-3   
   >>   
   >> As far as I know the astronauts, probes, or telescopes   
   >> have not seen anything like that up there. Do you believe   
   >> in alternate realities and dimensions like JTEM?   
   >   
   > As I have stated numerous times on this group, I   
   > believe in the spirit world. I've had experiences   
   > with the spirit world, as many people have. Jesus   
   > said this: "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him   
   > must worship in Spirit and truth." John 4:24   
      
   So the 'spirit world' has mansions?   
   Or is that just a figure of speech?   
      
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