From: user6340@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   JTEM  posted:   
   > On 1/5/26 1:28 AM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >   
   > > Do you think the world would have progressed better   
   > > without Christianity's influence?   
   >   
   > There is nothing less "Christian" than the 1% --   
      
   True. I would never argue that the globalist forces   
   of this world are observant Christians. My wording   
   "progressed better" was in the context of societal   
   progress, not technological. Our Founding Fathers   
   were almost all believers in God. Do you think any   
   other ideology (such as atheists, or Muslims, for   
   example) would have started our country and written   
   our Constitution?   
   >   
   > the   
   > nobility and monarchs. They were responsible for a   
   > great deal of the progress through their immense greed,   
   > selfishness and total disregard for humanity.   
      
   Which demonstrates that they were not following the   
   teachings of Jesus.   
   >   
   > It was   
   > effectively their 2,000 years of warfare that pushed   
   > technology.   
      
   The evil forces of this world are to blame for the   
   warfare they caused, right up to this very day. It's   
   not Christians who are conducting terrorism around   
   the world. It wasn't Christians who developed and   
   instituted the failed and horrific Communist regimes   
   that murdered and terrorized many millions of people   
   during the 20th century -- not to mention the wars   
   they started in their desire to enslave as many free   
   people as they could.   
   >   
   > What got us the rest of the way, and economically, was   
   > the invention of the mass market. Go all the way back   
   > to Roman times and there was no mass market.   
   >   
   > Everyone had to eat but, you'd never build a factory   
   > because you could never sell mass produced goods to the   
   > masses who were little different from slaves...   
   >   
   > Ironically, evil may be credited with that as well.   
      
   Wouldn't the system we've been given in our country   
   have been a better option?   
   >   
   > Though there was no mass market where ordinary i.e.   
   > dirt poor people could afford mass produced shoes,   
   > an army could. And they needed them. So as the most   
   > evil men on earth threw away the lives of countless   
   > people in order to enrich themselves. their armies   
   > needs manufactured goods...   
   >   
   > Shoes. Belts. Armor. Weapons.textiles...   
   >   
   > AND THEN with the invention of gunpowder, there very   
   > quickly came a point where the greatest warriors with   
   > lifetimes of training and the best, most expensive   
   > weapons & armor on earth could be easily killed by   
   > some pig farmer who picked up a gun some two weeks   
   > ago.   
   >   
   > FINALLY, during the first world war, ordinary people   
   > rose up against the ruling class in Russia, and closer   
   > to hom, in France, there was a mass mutiny were the   
   > ordinary people seized power over themselves and   
   > defied the 1%.   
   >   
   > Where's the bible in any of this?   
      
   You just made my point. Where the Bible IS observed   
   (such as with OUR Founding Fathers), a much better   
   way of life is produced for the masses.   
      
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