From: user6340@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   Mike  posted:   
   > On 2026-01-08 14:17, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > > JTEM  posted:   
   > >>   
   > >> Fundies claim to believe in God then set themselves   
   > >> above him, appointing themselves judge,   
   > >   
   > > Wrong. That's your false story, and just below in   
   > > this post, I'll show you why you're wrong.   
   > >>   
   > >> pronouncing themselves "Saved" and "Born Again"   
   > >   
   > > I realize you don't believe the Bible, but that   
   > > doesn't give you the right to falsely disparage   
   > > people who DO believe in the Bible. Because the   
   > > Bible does tell us how to be saved:   
   > >   
   > > [quoting] "Because, if you confess with your   
   > > mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your   
   > > heart that God raised him from the dead, you   
   > > will be saved. For with the heart one believes   
   > > and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses   
   > > and is saved." Romans 10:9-10   
   >   
   > Q. Mike > Why does that passage causes trouble for me?   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   > As a general rule, the idea:   
   > "Believe something deeply and publicly confess it"   
   > is very bad advice.   
      
   Not in this case.   
   >   
   > Reasons this fails in general:   
   > People can sincerely believe false things.   
      
   God will know who is sincere and who is not.   
   >   
   > Public confession can lock someone into error.   
      
   How can it be an error to believe that Jesus is   
   who He said He is, and believe that God raised   
   Him from the dead? How does that hurt anybody?   
   >   
   > It can escalate conflict or cause harm.   
      
   How? Please explain.   
      
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