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   Mike  posted:   
   > On 2026-01-08 15:20, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > > Mike  posted:   
   > >> On 2026-01-08 14:17, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>> JTEM  posted:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Fundies claim to believe in God then set themselves   
   > >>>> above him, appointing themselves judge,   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Wrong. That's your false story, and just below in   
   > >>> this post, I'll show you why you're wrong.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> pronouncing themselves "Saved" and "Born Again"   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I realize you don't believe the Bible, but that   
   > >>> doesn't give you the right to falsely disparage   
   > >>> people who DO believe in the Bible. Because the   
   > >>> Bible does tell us how to be saved:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> [quoting] "Because, if you confess with your   
   > >>> mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your   
   > >>> heart that God raised him from the dead, you   
   > >>> will be saved. For with the heart one believes   
   > >>> and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses   
   > >>> and is saved." Romans 10:9-10   
   > >>   
   > >> Q. Mike > Why does that passage causes trouble for me?   
   > >>   
   > >>    
   > >>   
   > >> As a general rule, the idea:   
   > >> "Believe something deeply and publicly confess it"   
   > >> is very bad advice.   
   > >   
   > > Not in this case.   
   > >>   
   > >> Reasons this fails in general:   
   > >> People can sincerely believe false things.   
   > >   
   > > God will know who is sincere and who is not.   
   > >>   
   > >> Public confession can lock someone into error.   
   > >   
   > > How can it be an error to believe that Jesus is   
   > > who He said He is, and believe that God raised   
   > > Him from the dead? How does that hurt anybody?   
   > >>   
   > >> It can escalate conflict or cause harm.   
   > >   
   > > How? Please explain.   
   >   
   > I think ChatGPT is getting sick and tired of you.   
      
   Good. Tell it I think it's full of crap.   
      
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