From: theirony2013@gmail.com   
      
   On 2026-01-10 18:40, Mike wrote:   
   > On 2026-01-10 18:10, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Mike  posted:   
   >>>   
   >>> THERE WILL BE NO RAPTURE !!!   
   >>   
   >> Yes, there will!!! I wrote about it in another thread,   
   >> complete with the Bible's scriptures that describe how   
   >> we will be CAUGHT UP and meet Jesus in the air! What   
   >> would you call being CAUGHT UP and meeting Jesus in   
   >> the air? It sounds exactly like the Rapture to me!   
   >>>   
   >>> OVERVIEW   
   >>>   
   >>> The Bible never explicitly teaches a secret, pre-tribulation rapture.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, actually it does. Especially when you also take   
   >> this into consideration:   
   >>   
   >> {quoting Jesus] "Because you have kept My command to   
   >> persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial   
   >> which shall come upon the whole world, to test those   
   >> who dwell on the earth." [end quote] Revelation 3:10   
   >>>   
   >>> Many passages directly contradict its core claims:   
   >>> Two-stage return of Christ   
   >>   
   >> For the Rapture, we meet Jesus in the air. He does   
   >> not return all the way to the earth for that one.   
   >> But He does come all the way back for the Second   
   >> Coming, during which He will set foot in Jerusalem   
   >> having returned the way He departed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Believers escaping tribulation   
   >>   
   >> I just posted that, just above, citing Revelation 3:10.   
   >>>   
   >>> A secret disappearance of the church   
   >>   
   >> I'm not sure it will be secret. But there will be people   
   >> taken and others left behind.   
   >>>   
   >>> ONE VISIBLE, SINGULAR RETURN OF CHRIST   
   >>   
   >> The one in which He sets foot in Jerusalem? Absolutely.   
   >>>   
   >>> Matthew 24:27   
   >>> Christ's coming is like lightning across the sky, public and obvious.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, that will be the one when He returns to the earth.   
   >>>   
   >>> Matthew 24:30–31   
   >>> All people see him.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, when He returns to Jerusalem.   
   >>>   
   >>> The elect are gathered at his visible return.   
   >>   
   >> Those will be the Tribulation saints, who will have   
   >> been taught by the 144,000 who will preach the Gospel   
   >> to those who are still here after the Rapture.   
   >>>   
   >>> Acts 1:9–11   
   >>> Jesus returns the same visible way he departed.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, when He comes back and sets foot in Jerusalem.   
   >   
   > I can't see Jerusalem from my location in Vancouver.   
   > In fact, Jerusalem is underground through the globe   
   > from my location.   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> Hebrews 9:28   
   >>> Christ appears a second time, not multiple times.   
   >>   
   >> I agree, we'll meet Him in the air for the Rapture.   
   >> Then He'll come all the way back for the Second   
   >> Coming when He actually returns to earth.   
   >   
   > How is that technically possible, seeing that the   
   > earth is a sphere 8,000 miles in diameter? Up for   
   > me is down for those on the opposite side of the   
   > globe in Jerusalem.   
      
      
      
   If you could dig a straight tunnel from Vancouver   
   to Jerusalem through the Earth, it would be roughly   
   9,500 km—shorter than the surface flight distance   
   of about 11,500 km—cutting directly through the   
   planet along a chord. Of course, such a tunnel   
   would be impossibly dangerous, exposing you to   
   extreme heat, crushing pressure, molten rock, and   
   the impossibility of breathable air long before   
   you got anywhere near Jerusalem.   
      
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