From: user6340@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   DocUFO  posted:   
   > On 1/11/2026 10:07 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > > DocUFO  posted:   
   > >> On 1/10/2026 3:03 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>> DocUFO  posted:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Lucifer incites Heaven's wrath   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I understand that you would have no way of knowing this,   
   > >>> but Satan was referred to as lucifer (a descriptive term,   
   > >>> not his name) before he rebelled against God, and was then   
   > >>> thrown out of Heaven:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> [quoting Jesus] "I saw Satan fall like lightning from Heaven."   
   > >>> [end quote] Luke 10:18   
   > >>>   
   > >>> So, the devil's name is Satan, not lucifer. Just so you know,   
   > >>> for future reference.   
   > >>   
   > >> Hey, I know you just love to express what you think is superior   
   > >> knowledge of eschatological, theological things and I'm replying   
   > >> once again that the name "Lucifer" is based on popular and modern-   
   > >> era culture, literature.   
   > >   
   > > The basis of the false claim that "lucifer" is a name   
   > > is due to a bad translation of the Bible. Unfortunately,   
   > > the King James Bible translation made several mistakes,   
   > > and capitalizing the descriptive term "lucifer" -- and   
   > > thereby turning it into another name for Satan -- is   
   > > one of those mistakes. Many other Bible translations   
   > > correctly translate the descriptive term "lucifer"   
   > > into English as "morning star".   
   > >   
   > > I just thought you might want to know that "lucifer"   
   > > is not another name for Satan, and it never was. Just   
   > > because a lot of people in the English-speaking world   
   > > have been misled by a bad translation, that doesn't   
   > > mean anyone who knows better needs to continue using   
   > > that bad translation.   
   >   
   >   
   > If you're using contextual reference within the Christian   
   > community, it's out of place historically.   
      
   Yes, I know. But it's actually historically incorrect,   
   since we know that the word "lucifer" in the original   
   text is a descriptive term, and NOT another name for   
   Satan.   
      
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