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   Mike  posted:   
   > On 2026-01-14 16:40, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > > Mike  posted:   
   > >> On 2026-01-14 16:07, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>> On 2026-01-14 14:00, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>> On 2026-01-14 12:57, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>> On 2026-01-13 16:13, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-13 15:52, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:0   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-13 14:28, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-12 14:20, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-12 10:30, JTEM wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer:  I dismiss the whole "Rapture" business as   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protestant fundy snuff porn.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't totally dismiss the idea, but can't see   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven being one of the select few.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [quoting Jesus] "For God so loved the world, that He gave   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but have eternal life." [end quoting] John 3:16   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe in Jesus. I believe He was conceived by the   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy Spirit, was born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified,   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then resurrected on the third day. I believe Jesus was   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen alive by hundreds of witnesses. I believe all of   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, Mike. I believe it will all my heart.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hitler probably believed that too...   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Impossible. If Hitler believed that, he would not have   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to commit all the crimes he committed, which   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> includes the horrific deaths of many MILLIONS of people.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> According to my research, Hitler never personally killed anyone.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> If a person pays a hit man to kill someone, and the   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> hit man does it, is the person who paid the hit man   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> not guilty of murder in your opinion?   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> I said nothing about 'guilt'. All I said is that   
   > >>>>>>>>>> my 'according to my research, Hitler never PERSONALLY   
   > >>>>>>>>>> killed anyone.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> So what? Are you saying he's not guilty of murder?   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> I said what I said, and nothing more. Anyone who orders   
   > >>>>>>>> others to kill on another behalf is guilty, as well as   
   > >>>>>>>> those who followed the instructions.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> That's how the law works, in both the U.S. and Canada,   
   > >>>>>>> as well as in every other part of the civilized world.   
   > >>>>>>> So Hitler was guilty of murder by the MILLIONS.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Then you are also guilty for frying hundreds of thousands   
   > >>>>>> of Japanese, and countless others....   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> By that "logic" (or rather lack of logic, since you   
   > >>>>> don't seem to even know what logic means), you are   
   > >>>>> guilty of all the conventional bombs and firebombs   
   > >>>>> the Royal Canadian Air Force dropped on Germans.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> I have never justified the killing of anyone.   
   > >>>> You find excuses to justify it when it suits   
   > >>>> your needs.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> It's such a shame that you're so ignorant of facts,   
   > >>> that you don't know how many lives those bombs   
   > >>> saved by ending the war, which ended the need for   
   > >>> a ground invasion -- because Japan surrendered   
   > >>> without a ground invasion being necessary.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> I didn't order any bombs to be dropped, Mike.   
   > >>>>> World War II took place well before I was born.   
   > >>>>> I wish you would take a course on logic, so you   
   > >>>>> wouldn't make such imbecilic statements, the way   
   > >>>>> you so often do.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> You have found excuses to justify it, which makes   
   > >>>> you just as guilty as if you dropped the bomb yourself.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Look at you judging me, after you said TODAY that   
   > >>> you're not qualified to judge anyone. I wish you'd   
   > >>> make up your mind.   
   > >>   
   > >> The Bible teaches that approving or excusing sin   
   > >> makes one guilty.   
   > >   
   > > The United States didn't start that war with Japan,   
   > > Mike. Just so you know, because it seems there are   
   > > a lot of things you don't know. The United States   
   > > was attacked by Japan on December 7, 1941. You   
   > > should look it up and find out about that.   
   >   
   > There you go, justifying again....   
      
   I've noticed the way morally confused people on this   
   group have a problem understanding that when one group   
   of people start a war against another group of people,   
   the people who were attacked have the right to defend   
   themselves -- whether you (in your moral confusion)   
   like it or not.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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