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   Mike  posted:   
   > On 2026-01-15 14:12, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > > Mike  posted:   
   > >> On 2026-01-14 16:40, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>> On 2026-01-14 16:07, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>> On 2026-01-14 14:00, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>> On 2026-01-14 12:57, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-13 16:13, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-13 15:52, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:0   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-13 14:28, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-12 14:20, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-12 10:30, JTEM wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer:  I dismiss the whole "Rapture" business as   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protestant fundy snuff porn.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't totally dismiss the idea, but can't see   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven being one of the select few.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [quoting Jesus] "For God so loved the world, that He gave   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not   
   perish   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but have eternal life." [end quoting] John 3:16   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe in Jesus. I believe He was conceived by the   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy Spirit, was born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified,   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then resurrected on the third day. I believe Jesus was   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen alive by hundreds of witnesses. I believe all of   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, Mike. I believe it will all my heart.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hitler probably believed that too...   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Impossible. If Hitler believed that, he would not have   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to commit all the crimes he committed, which   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes the horrific deaths of many MILLIONS of people.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to my research, Hitler never personally killed   
   anyone.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If a person pays a hit man to kill someone, and the   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hit man does it, is the person who paid the hit man   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not guilty of murder in your opinion?   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> I said nothing about 'guilt'. All I said is that   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> my 'according to my research, Hitler never PERSONALLY   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> killed anyone.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> So what? Are you saying he's not guilty of murder?   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> I said what I said, and nothing more. Anyone who orders   
   > >>>>>>>>>> others to kill on another behalf is guilty, as well as   
   > >>>>>>>>>> those who followed the instructions.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> That's how the law works, in both the U.S. and Canada,   
   > >>>>>>>>> as well as in every other part of the civilized world.   
   > >>>>>>>>> So Hitler was guilty of murder by the MILLIONS.   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> Then you are also guilty for frying hundreds of thousands   
   > >>>>>>>> of Japanese, and countless others....   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> By that "logic" (or rather lack of logic, since you   
   > >>>>>>> don't seem to even know what logic means), you are   
   > >>>>>>> guilty of all the conventional bombs and firebombs   
   > >>>>>>> the Royal Canadian Air Force dropped on Germans.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> I have never justified the killing of anyone.   
   > >>>>>> You find excuses to justify it when it suits   
   > >>>>>> your needs.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> It's such a shame that you're so ignorant of facts,   
   > >>>>> that you don't know how many lives those bombs   
   > >>>>> saved by ending the war, which ended the need for   
   > >>>>> a ground invasion -- because Japan surrendered   
   > >>>>> without a ground invasion being necessary.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> I didn't order any bombs to be dropped, Mike.   
   > >>>>>>> World War II took place well before I was born.   
   > >>>>>>> I wish you would take a course on logic, so you   
   > >>>>>>> wouldn't make such imbecilic statements, the way   
   > >>>>>>> you so often do.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> You have found excuses to justify it, which makes   
   > >>>>>> you just as guilty as if you dropped the bomb yourself.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Look at you judging me, after you said TODAY that   
   > >>>>> you're not qualified to judge anyone. I wish you'd   
   > >>>>> make up your mind.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> The Bible teaches that approving or excusing sin   
   > >>>> makes one guilty.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The United States didn't start that war with Japan,   
   > >>> Mike. Just so you know, because it seems there are   
   > >>> a lot of things you don't know. The United States   
   > >>> was attacked by Japan on December 7, 1941. You   
   > >>> should look it up and find out about that.   
   > >>   
   > >> There you go, justifying again....   
   > >   
   > > I've noticed the way morally confused people on this   
   > > group have a problem understanding that when one group   
   > > of people start a war against another group of people,   
   > > the people who were attacked have the right to defend   
   > > themselves -- whether you (in your moral confusion)   
   > > like it or not.   
   >   
   > Frying 250,000 innocent people is defending yourself?   
      
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