From: theirony2013@gmail.com   
      
   On 2026-01-15 16:33, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >   
   > Mike  posted:   
   >>   
   >> Frying 250,000 innocent people is defending yourself?   
   >   
   > I realize you know nothing about history. I realize that   
   > you're also very morally confused. So I will attempt to   
   > educate you on the topic of Hiroshima and Nakasaki.   
   >   
   > The Japanese leaders were choosing to surrender when the   
   > U.S. military was closing in on their home country. They   
   > were continuing to fight, and with the battle of Okinawa   
   > (which I'm sure you know nothing about), they gave every   
   > indication that they planned to fight to the death before   
   > they would surrender.   
   >   
   > Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military industrial targets.   
   > Those cities produced weapons and equipment for Japan's   
   > military. Many of the people who lived there worked in   
   > those factories. The atomic bombs were used to shock the   
   > Japanese leaders into realizing there was no point in   
   > fighting to the death.   
   >   
   > Some estimates are that 30 MILLION lives were saved when   
   > the Japanese leaders came to their senses and surrendered.   
   > Not that any of this information will affect your moral   
   > confusion, which I'm sure you will continue to exhibit on   
   > a regular basis.   
      
   Thee is no way to prove any of that.   
      
   I'm talking about your own morality, and you keep   
   trying to deflect, change it into something else.   
      
   Even if I had to kill an enemy in self defense   
   I would feel very remorseful at having to   
   resort to those measures.   
      
   You on the other hand relish in your glee which   
   I think is kind of sick. Like JTEM said you get   
   erections from 'snuff porn'.   
      
      
   Even Oppenheimer was remorseful of having helped   
   with developing the bomb. We don't know how many   
   people will die because of him yet.   
      
      
   Oppenheimer did feel remorse, though it was complex and   
   developed over time rather than all at once. During the   
   Manhattan Project, his focus was on ending the war before   
   Nazi Germany could build an atomic bomb, which left little   
   room for moral reflection.   
      
   After Hiroshima and Nagasaki, his tone changed. He spoke of   
   the bomb with deep seriousness, famously quoting the   
   Bhagavad Gita: “Now I am become Death, the destroyer of   
   worlds.” He later told President Truman he felt he had   
   “blood on his hands.”   
      
   In later years, Oppenheimer opposed further nuclear   
   escalation, including the hydrogen bomb, and supported   
   arms control. His remorse showed itself not as denial of   
   the project, but as a lasting concern for the ethical   
   responsibility of scientists.   
      
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