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   On 2026-01-16 14:18, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >   
   > Mike  posted:   
   >> On 2026-01-16 11:29, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>> Mike  posted:   
   >>>> On 2026-01-15 23:31, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>>>> Mike  posted:   
   >>>>>> On 2026-01-15 17:58, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2026-01-15 17:48, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-15 16:33, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Mike  posted:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Frying 250,000 innocent people is defending yourself?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I realize you know nothing about history. I realize that   
   >>>>>>>>>>> you're also very morally confused. So I will attempt to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> educate you on the topic of Hiroshima and Nakasaki.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The Japanese leaders were choosing to surrender when the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> U.S. military was closing in on their home country. They   
   >>>>>>>>>>> were continuing to fight, and with the battle of Okinawa   
   >>>>>>>>>>> (which I'm sure you know nothing about), they gave every   
   >>>>>>>>>>> indication that they planned to fight to the death before   
   >>>>>>>>>>> they would surrender.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military industrial targets.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Those cities produced weapons and equipment for Japan's   
   >>>>>>>>>>> military. Many of the people who lived there worked in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> those factories. The atomic bombs were used to shock the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Japanese leaders into realizing there was no point in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> fighting to the death.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Some estimates are that 30 MILLION lives were saved when   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the Japanese leaders came to their senses and surrendered.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Not that any of this information will affect your moral   
   >>>>>>>>>>> confusion, which I'm sure you will continue to exhibit on   
   >>>>>>>>>>> a regular basis.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Thee is no way to prove any of that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about your own morality, and you keep   
   >>>>>>>>>> trying to deflect, change it into something else.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> My morality has nothing to do with it. Your moral   
   >>>>>>>>> confusion, however, has everything to do with how   
   >>>>>>>>> ill-informed you are.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Even if I had to kill an enemy in self defense   
   >>>>>>>>>> I would feel very remorseful at having to   
   >>>>>>>>>> resort to those measures.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You on the other hand relish in your glee   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You know nothing about me, Mike. You have invented   
   >>>>>>>>> a caricature of me in your imagination, and you   
   >>>>>>>>> have projected that caricature onto me even though   
   >>>>>>>>> it's a false caricature.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> As for your moral confusion, I hope you read JTEM's   
   >>>>>>>>> post that I just read -- it's very good, and it   
   >>>>>>>>> might help to educate you since you are completely   
   >>>>>>>>> ill-informed and morally confused on this topic.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And just so you know, Mike, -- the United States   
   >>>>>>>>> did not start that war. The U.S. wanted to stop   
   >>>>>>>>> Japan from enslaving the Chinese people. It's a   
   >>>>>>>>> shame that you know nothing about any of that, or   
   >>>>>>>>> how and why that war started -- and why it's a   
   >>>>>>>>> good thing is ended when it did and didn't go   
   >>>>>>>>> on and kill MANY MILLIONS MORE people.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> But why am I wasting my time on trying to educate   
   >>>>>>>>> you, when it's clear that you are too morally   
   >>>>>>>>> confused to ever understand the reality of that   
   >>>>>>>>> war.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I want to talk about your remorse, your feelings,   
   >>>>>>>> not stuff I could look up with ChatGPT..   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> My remorse is that there are evil people in this   
   >>>>>>> world who make war necessary. But I'm glad when   
   >>>>>>> evil is defeated. Read JTEM's post and try to   
   >>>>>>> learn something new for a change.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The solution to evil is not more evil....   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The solution to evil is to defeat it. Sometimes   
   >>>>> the only way to do that is to fight. Fighting   
   >>>>> in self-defense is not evil, no matter how   
   >>>>> morally confused you so obviously are.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Evil cannot be 'defeated'.   
   >>>   
   >>> Hitler was evil. Hitler was defeated. There are   
   >>> many examples down through history when evil was   
   >>> defeated.   
   >>   
   >> If evil was defeated with Hitler, why do you   
   >   
   > The evil that Hitler caused was defeated. I'm not   
   > sure why this is such a difficult concept for you   
   > to understand.   
      
   I thought we were talking about all evil in general.   
   And no, I don't see that it has or will ever be   
   vanquished. Now you try to qualify it by limiting   
   it to Hitler. You have excuses to justify any and   
   everything.   
      
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