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   JTEM to All   
   Not that any of us matter but, Iran... (   
   29 Jan 26 12:40:13   
   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   I haven't posted anything about Iran.   
      
   Oh, I reacted to the Doc shrieking on the topic, but   
   nothing on Facebook and, more telling, nothing on   
   Tumblr.   
      
   I've been avoiding the topic.   
      
   And it's not like I haven't been thinking about it. Iran   
   has been on my mind a lot. But I *Cringe* and every   
   suggestion that Americans need to get involved, "Support"   
   THIS or THAT.   
      
   Remember the hostage crisis?   
      
   That was because we -- the United States -- backed   
   placing the self-proclaimed "Royals" back in power.   
      
   It was a British plan. The Brits had been working on   
   "Regime Change" in Iran for YEARS at that point, quite   
   literally YEARS of effort, and they were even willing   
   to invade Iran to accomplish this regime change.   
      
   But they couldn't.   
      
   Stalin wasn't afraid of the Brits. The Soviet Union   
   had been Public Enemy #1 of the British empire since   
   the revolution and the executions of the Russian royal   
   family and a British "Intervention" in Iran would have   
   amounted to an engraved invitation hand delivered to   
   Stalin:   
      
   "The British empire cordially invites you, Stalin, to   
   counter invade Iran and stomp the shit out of our   
   military."   
      
   It would have happened.   
      
   So the Brits needed their own 400 pound gorilla to   
   keep Stalin at bay and the President at the time,   
   Truman, was like, "Go fuck yourself."   
      
   And why not?   
      
   America was going to topple a democracy, install some   
   dumb cunt who thinks his shit don't stink, risking a   
   war with Russia, all because the Brits said they owned   
   Iran's oil and were willing to kill to keep control of   
   it?   
      
   No, Truman "Passed" on THAT golden opportunity...   
      
   Truman, btw, by some amazing coincidence was subjected   
   to the mother of all negative campaigns. He was denounced   
   as a communist, for example. And it was so bad that when   
   he left office the man couldn't have gotten elected dog   
   catcher....   
      
   Yes I'm saying that, once again, just like in the pre war   
   years, the Brits were interfering in American politics.   
      
   So, Ike gets elected and before Ike even got sworn in the   
   CIA started moving forward on the coup in Iran.   
      
   Again, VERY simple plan:  The U.S. was orders of magnitude   
   more conservative back then, Iran even more so. The social   
   conservatives, the religious conservatives -- and we might   
   as well just say "Religious" because they were automatically   
   conservative -- they all loved having a Shah. The democracy   
   was imposed on Iran by foreigners.   
      
   Any government imposed by foreigners ALWAYS has a taint...   
      
   Effectively, the only part of the British plan that had   
   been missing up to that point was "400 pound gorilla to   
   counter Stalin." And that was the United States.   
      
   The only role the U.S. had in the British plan was to be   
   the 400 pound gorilla. And to make sure every (Stalin) was   
   clear on this, they had to "Leak" the fact that this   
   British plan was an American CIA plan.   
      
   Stalin had to believe he was up against Ike, not the Brits.   
      
   So they leaked it. And nobody would publish it.   
      
   Back then they still had this thing called "Patriotism" and   
   the media was none too eager to publish classified information.   
      
   The media didn't know this was a British operation and that   
   planting the fairy tale that it was an American coup into   
   the press was part of the plan, to scare away the Russians.   
      
   Finally the Saturday Evening Post published where the NYT   
   said "Fuck off."   
      
   You want to know what kills me?  I had it. I actually owned   
   a copy of THAT edition of the Saturday Evening Post, back when   
   I was in high school. It was from someone's old magazine   
   collection that they had thrown out and. totally by accident,   
   I got THAT edition!   
      
   And I have no idea what happened to it.   
      
   By I actually had a copy -- decades later -- and read it, which   
   seared the whole thing in my mind... forever...   
      
   Even funnier:  I was not away of the British history on the   
   topic. But this was post hostage-taking, so I could connect the   
   operation to the later fall of the Shah and the blaming of the   
   U.S.   
      
   LATER in life I found out it was a years-long British effort, not   
   an American, and it was one of COUNTLESS examples of our fake   
   friends in Europe throwing the United States under the bus...   
      
   I HATE monarchy. I HATE "nobility." It's a cancer on mankind.   
      
   ALL economic disparity flows directly from social disparity.   
      
   You can pretend it's not true but it is. ALL the highest paying   
   positions -- from CEO to corporate lawyer -- and not and never   
   are "Market" priced. Earnings never ever relates to market value.   
      
   The only way on God's green earth that an Elon Musk could   
   possibly justify a $1 trillion "compensation" package is if one   
   or more other companies are offering him $999 billion.   
      
   That's it.   
      
   This means that there's ZERO capitalism involved. There's NO   
   market forces what so ever. Elon Musk is being paid many, many,   
   many orders of magnitude beyond his market worth.   
      
   Hourly wage earners?  They are actually paid LESS than they are   
   worth. ALL hourly wage workers. Right now.   
      
   Back when George Dubya Bush was president, on average Americans   
   were earning $2,0000 less per year than they would have WITHOUT   
   all the illegal aliens.   
      
   Illegal aliens depress wages. Not only does a greatly reduced   
   wage look big to them, because they come from a third world   
   shithole, but they're illegal!  They can be exploited.   
      
   NOTE:  The actual loss in earning was much greater, as the loss   
   was suffered exclusively by hourly wage earners, and the lower   
   on the pay scale the more susceptible to exploitation.   
      
   So there's no relationship at all between "Executive Compensation"   
   and market economics, no such relationship exists for even a   
   corporate lawyer, while market forces are used to depress the   
   earning of "The little people."   
      
   It's social, not economics.   
      
   Economics has NOTHING to do with most people's earning power. It's   
   their class that matters, not their economic worth.   
      
   And it's worse than I make out here because anyone with the money   
   can go to law school, but it would be rare for "Anybody" to get   
   that cushy, high paying corporate lawyer job. No, their social   
   standing played a large roll there...   
      
   Monarchy, nobility institutionalizes social disparity. It insists   
   that social disparity is real, that there's a genuine difference   
   and you honestly are inferior and they're superior.   
      
   Would you want a surgeon who didn't earn the position but instead   
   was born as one?  Would you want a a surgeon who was proclaimed a   
   surgeon at birth, or one who obtained the position because they   
   demonstrated competence?   
      
   We need to BAN monarchy, not support it.   
      
   And when it comes to foreign policy, and I'm speaking here in the   
   finest tradition of a liberal Democrat:  He who intervenes least,   
   intervenes best."   
      
      
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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