From: user6340@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   JTEM  posted:   
   > On 2/1/26 8:35 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > > JTEM  posted:   
   >   
   > >> I have no idea what you think this means.   
   > >   
   > > It means Trump sent B-2 bombers over Iran a few   
   > > months ago, and bombed their nuclear facilities   
   > > with massive bunker-buster bombs. Did you really   
   > > not hear about that?   
   >   
   > Oh. So on second we're talking about regime change, the   
   > next you're talking about attacks on their nuclear   
   > program while not touching the regime.   
      
   It weakened the regime.   
   >   
   > Again, have no idea what you mean by any of this....   
      
   They lost their nuclear program, which was a big   
   blow to their waning power.   
   >   
   > TOPIC:  Regime change.   
   >   
   > We absolutely positively need to NOT be involved AND   
   > to NOT let any of our fake friends throw us under the   
   > bus -- get involved and then blame their involvement   
   > on us.   
      
   But we're already involved.   
   >   
   > >> There was another narrative, completely different.   
   > >   
   > > Yes, that was the LYING "mainstream" media's LYING   
   >   
   > I guess once you decide that the media is lying, you   
   > can't use the media to "Prove" that a particular point   
   > of view is correct... "But the lying media said it   
   > was true, so it has to be!"   
      
   Do you really think there is only ONE media outlet   
   in the entire world, and they all sing the same tune?   
   I remember when you singled out Fox News as "Faux"   
   news (when the reality is that Fox News is one of   
   the few that reports actual news, while CBS, NBC,   
   ABC, CNN, PBS, MSwhatevertheyareatthispoint, the   
   garbage New York Times, the piece of crap Washington   
   Post, the vile and repugnant Los Angeles Times, the   
   LYING Associated Press and Reuters are one big pack   
   of LIARS.   
      
   Then there are all the new media who are available   
   on social media outlets that we never had before   
   the internet. Some are good, some aren't. But if   
   you find one or two that ARE good, they are an   
   invaluable source of information that the LYING   
   "mainstream" media (I cited them above) refuse   
   to report -- or report inaccurately (with LIES).   
   >   
   > > You really have no idea what you're talking about.   
   >   
   > Unfortunately, I know a great deal and talked about it   
   > a lot, right in this group. And I say again:  The   
   > United States can't afford to have ANY fingerprints on   
   > an Iranian government. It just dooms the future.   
      
   You're either not paying attention or you consume   
   the wrong media if you don't understand that we're   
   already involved.   
   >   
   > This is NOT uncharted territory!  We have been down this   
   > exact same road before, in Iran.   
      
   This isn't 1953. The people of Iran have the internet   
   now, and they know the reason they are living under   
   those strict sanctions -- it's because their criminal   
   government has brought those sanctions on themselves   
   by being the number one state sponsor of terrorism   
   in the world. And the Iranian people are sick of all   
   of that, whether you know it or not.   
      
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