From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/4/26 10:04 PM, Madhu wrote:   
   >   
   > * JTEM <10m0r79$2qrun$1@dont-email.me> :   
   > Wrote on Wed, 4 Feb 2026 20:19:37 -0500:   
   >   
   >> We're not. Certainly not officially.   
   >   
   > 	"Globalisation is usually described as the expansion of free   
   > 	trade of goods and services. That is an incomplete   
   > 	description. Globalisation is a political system that defined   
   > 	how governments ran markets and societies, and how they engaged   
   > 	with each other and with networked global institutions that they   
   > 	had established. It came to be associated with liberalism,   
   > 	democracy, and global cooperation. That system is now over.   
      
   Look. You're right. But it's *Way* more complicated that you let on.   
      
   Yes. Joining "The Free World," engaging in free trade means getting   
   rich, or at least a lot richer, at the expense of your independence.   
      
   This is an inescapable consequence, not the finagling of some evil   
   elite.   
      
   You've got it backwards!   
      
   The evil sees this. The evil has long, Long, LONG seen that "free   
   trade" make you intertwined with other nations and, yes, at their   
   mercy as they are at your mercy. AND they are exploiting this.   
      
   The evil is without question exploiting this fact.   
      
   But it is a fact. If 100% of the stench from Europe -- the monarchs,   
   the so called "Nobles," everyone with a self proclaimed title --   
   disappeared tomorrow, if they all died of some disease or blasted off   
   for Mars, nothing would change. "Free Trade" would still result in   
   an interdependence and a huge vulnerability. The evil in this world   
   knows this, understands the market forces and always manipulates   
   them to take from the rest of us & heap wealth and power on themselves.   
      
   The point is, we all want the trade. We all want Iranian pistachios,   
   Iranian rugs, Iranian oil & gas... Iran was a major producer of GM   
   cars before the revolution!  AND IRAN WANTS ALL OF THAT!  Iran wants   
   the trade. Iran wants the wealth. Iran wants all the newest technology,   
   the newest and best medical care for their people, the communications...   
      
   EVERYONE wants the same thing. The problem is that the evil of Europe   
   won't let them have it without becoming their slaves, and Iran is   
   actively pursuing it even as they actively avoid it.   
      
   Iran can't have it both ways!  They can't be just another trading   
   partner on the global stage AND be 100% independent and free of   
   market forces.   
      
   Even if we kill every last evil person in the west, all the market   
   forces still exist. Iran will still be vulnerable and they will   
   feel it the most -- THE WORST -- if and when they exert their   
   independence from their trade partners the most.   
      
   It's inescapable.   
      
   If there's a trading block of 10 nations and 9 of them agree to   
   something and the 10th says "Fuck you" then it instantly becomes   
   a trading block on 9 nations. Yes, even if nobody planned it this   
   way, even if nobody wanted it this way, it's what will happen.   
      
   This is reality.   
      
   And Iran says they will not accept this, but they want all the   
   benefits of that free trade just the same.   
      
   So, very long story put short:  It's not about trade and never   
   was. It's about evil meeting stupidity.   
      
   What we need to do is concentrate on how to counter the evil.   
      
   That's it.   
      
   It won't bring about a socialist utopia and it certainly won't   
   make everything fair. All it would do is eliminate the   
   manipulation of trade for the benefit of the self imposed   
   elite. That's it.   
      
   I hate to say it, I'm the first to debunk the Gwobull Warbling   
   scam but, we do need to manage resources. And this includes   
   fossil fuels. I agree with Iran that the way the evil is doing   
   it is wrong, it needs to stop IMMEDIATELY, that all their "CO2"   
   bullshit is designed to make them richer and more powerful   
   while making the rest of us "serfs" but, the resources have to   
   be controlled.   
      
   We need to manage resources.   
      
   Fishing, for example. It's going to be gone. Our seas are   
   going to be dead. We need to already have abandoned fishing   
   in favor of FARMING. Yes, "Farmed fish."   
      
   We need to manage resources. And, yes, that includes oil and   
   that includes Iranian oil. But the way the evil wants it done   
   is evil.   
      
   Iran won't accept ANY way, the evil insists on evil ways...   
      
   There is a middle ground.   
      
      
      
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