From: user6340@newsgrouper.org.invalid
JTEM posted:
> On 2/5/26 6:24 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:
>
> > The Bush family are RINOs
>
> I think that's overly simplistic.
There are two distinct groups within the Republican
Party -- the Establishment and the Tea Party/MAGA
movements. The Establishment are sometimes known as
the "Country Club Republicans", while the Tea Party
movement was a rebellion by those of us who want a
Republican Party that is more responsive to the
smaller business people -- and not just all about
Big Business and the corporate chieftains.
That's why all the corporate energy is now within
the corrupt Democratic Party. Almost every current
CEO is a woke Democrat. Practically the entire
worldwide corporate structure is being led by woke
liberals.
>
> Poppy Bush considered himself a moderate Republican.
Yes, which is why Reagan put him on the ticket after
the other RINO (Ford) declined to be demoted to the
Vice Presidency. The Establishment RINOs told Reagan
he needed to have a "moderate" Republican on the
ticket. That's the only reason we had the two Bush
presidencies. The first Bush couldn't even get
reelected to a second term after inheriting what
would have been Reagan's third term.
One more thing about the elder Bush -- he actually
voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. He proved that
he was always a RINO, and that goes for his entire
family -- as well as the Cheney family.
>
> And do keep in mind that even Richard Nixon could
> qualify as a "RINO" today,
Without a doubt. Even then, he was a RINO.
>
> or any Rockerfeller,
Of course. To this day RINOs are sometimes referred
to as "Rockefeller Republicans".
>
> or later Goldwater, Republican.
Goldwater was more libertarian than conservative.
For those who don't know the difference between
libertarians and conservatives, libertarians are
pro-choice and pro-legalization of drugs, among
other positions that are far from conservative.
>
> And if you want to chuck "RINO" at people:
>
> Trump is currently the single most DEMOCRATIC
> politician in Washington!
That's not the definition of RINO. A RINO is a
"Republican" who works with the DC Establishment,
which has completely taken over the Democratic
Party; while RINOs pitch in and help the Deep
State/DC Establishment try to turn our country
over to the Globalists.
>
> He's prioritizing the housing crisis, called Pocahontas
> about tackling credit card interest rates, taking on
> drug prices... all things Democrats used to give a shit
> about before the globalists took over.
Yes, and that's why the globalist DC Establishment
(with the help of RINOs) hate Trump so much and
tried to keep him off the ballot while they were
simultaneously trying to imprison him -- and if
all else failed, they were hoping to inflame
some nut job to try to kill him.
>
> > And just to remind you, Bill Clinton was initially
> > critical of China during this first couple of years,
> > but then he changed his mind and started being very
> > friendly with China for the remainder of his time in
> > the presidency.
>
> Clinton's policies towards China created the
> vulnerabilities that Trump is using against them right
> now.
>
> If it matters though; I thought Clinton's policies were
> a mistake and Dubya Bush's policies were a disaster.
Clinton and the Bush family are on the same team.
The elder Bush proved it by doing something even
Doc couldn't bring himself to do -- vote for Hillary
Clinton in 2016.
>
> > The Clintons and the Bush family are best of friends,
> > since they're all members in good standing of the DC
> > Establishment (aka the Deep State). Obama also joined
> > the DC Establishment, and Biden is also a member in
> > good standing. Only Trump has been different during
> > all these years.
>
> You grant yourself too much credit.
>
> They're far more old school "Diplomatic" than anyone
> today. They smile and make kissy-face at each other, but
> that's what you're supposed to do.
It's far more than that. Barbara Bush referred
to Bill Clinton as the Bush family's adopted son,
while George W. Bush referred to Bill Clinton as
his "brother from another mother". That's a lot
more than just the simple courtesy to which you
referred just above -- which actually did exist
back in those days, but the relationship between
Bill Clinton and the Bush family goes far beyond
that.
>
> Apart from the
> occasional wingnut, EVERYONE was that way!
Yes, and it's shame that the Democrats have gone
so far to the left that they are not longer able
to show that kind of courtesy to their political
opponents.
>
> >> I remember back then, under Dubya, saying that I thought we
> >> should fight China THEN, before the Republicans turned them
> >> into a super power...
>
> > What did you say during Bill Clinton's time in office?
>
> We had not reached that point yet. But by Dubya Bush, it was
> clear that China had remained a rogue, even hostile nation.
>
> ...maybe we should have attacked north Korea, either
> tricking China into going to war against us -- instead of the
> other way around.
>
> Clinton's real failure was north Korea. All the experts told
> him that they were on the verge of collapse so they came up
> with some scheme where we were going to solve all their
> energy problems, build them a revolutionary nuclear reactor,
> in exchange for them abandoning their nuclear program. Well.
> The "Experts" were wrong, north Korea held together despite
> all the hardships and they eventually realized they were being
> scammed!
>
> Bush should have attacked them, BEFORE the nuclear weapons
> supposedly existed, and before any delivery systems were
> developed.
>
> THAT might've drew in China, and we could have crushed them
> BEFORE they got rich & powerful, or at least ended the
> existence of one rogue nation that can never be trusted no
> matter what.
>
> Now we've got at least TWO! China and north Korea...
If you expected Bush to do any of that, you're not
accepting that the Bush family are the same kind of
globalists that have taken over today's Democratic
Party. Thank God Trump kept JEB! Bush from getting
the Republican nomination in 2016. Not that JEB!
would have won the presidency, because there was
too much Bush fatigue in this country by then, as
the 2016 Republican primaries demonstrated.
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