From: garyrayl70@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/20/2026 2:42 PM, DocUFO wrote:   
   > On 2/20/2026 1:13 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>   
   >> DocUFO  posted:   
   >>> On 2/19/2026 3:09 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   >>>> JTEM  posted:   
   >>>>> On 2/19/26 4:36 PM, DocUFO wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> It suddenly came in a shocking majority vote   
   >>>>>> by the Senate to proceed with the impeachment   
   >>>>>> of DJT!!!.....   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Lol!  P.T. Barnum was an optimist...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You know that the Senate doesn't do that, CAN'T do that!   
   >>>> I doubt Doc understood your point about the Senate   
   >>>> not voting to impeach. Just so Doc knows, it's the   
   >>>> House of Representatives that votes to impeach. It's   
   >>>> the Senate that conducts the trial, with the Chief   
   >>>> Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Then the Senate votes on whether or not the person   
   >>>> who was impeached will be removed from office.   
   >>>   
   >>> And just so that you understand that the entire basis of   
   >>> the A.I. prank is that I and most Americans know a   
   >>> President cannot be removed from office by a House   
   >>> majority vote for impeachment but only by a two-thirds   
   >>> majority vote in the Senate trial.   
   >>   
   >> Yet the subject line of this thread mentions the   
   >> Senate voting to impeach Trump. However, as you   
   >> now acknowledge, that's just not the way it works.   
   >>>   
   >>> No such situation has yet arisen in our history.   
   >>> They all escaped removal and punishment.   
   >>   
   >> By punishment, you mean removal from office, right?   
   >   
   > No, they were not removed and they were not punished.   
   > No one spent a day in prison nor paid a fine.   
   > Removal by itself is not punishment for criminal   
   > offenses. It's a prudent necessary action to stop any   
   > more criminality while in office.   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> The wrongdoers   
   >>> are protected from criminal punishment by the 25th   
   >>> Amendment.   
   >>   
   >> Oh, you actually think impeachment and removal from   
   >> office DOES involve criminal punishment? Because the   
   >> impeachment process in Congress does NOT prescribe   
   >> criminal punishment. And the 25th Amendment is not   
   >> what you apparently think it is.   
   >   
   > Does the 25th Amendment's sanctioning criminal behavior   
   > bother your sensitivities about justice being done   
   > while similar behavior anywhere else in our society is   
   > not tolerated by letting wrongdoers go free, nor is   
   > pardoning criminals in prison unless evidence overturns   
   > their sentences.   
   > You might like to see Democrats beat up Capitol cops,   
   > terrorize legislators, vandalize and steal, after their   
   > candidate did everything illegal to become President,   
   > charged with defrauding an election and inciting a riot,   
   > and you'd been pleased as punch he'd not been brought to   
   > court! EH? If it'd been Biden who'd lost the 2020 election.   
   > Sure you would NOT. LOL! So, why is not Donnie in federal   
   > court? Why did he not show up? 25th Amendment again backed   
   > by a majority SCOTUS vote (6-3). You are just fine with   
   > letting Donald go on with his madness and malevolence as   
   > long as it doesn't hurt you or your family, badly affect   
   > your investments and job.   
   > And there you have it in the aggregate: the rich and elite   
   > get off scot-free and even get reelected and do some more   
   > illegal and immoral acts. And act like total arrogant dopes!   
   > "Hey, let's remove Donald's portrait mug from the Hall, and   
   > put up a plaque that states he's the worst POTUS ever!"   
   > Yuk, yuk. It's all right, eh? We need to keep supporting   
   > the childish hateful creep that keeps reminding everyone   
   > he was cheated out of victory.   
   > Horses' asses don't get any horsier.   
   > #y=   
   > `V` lol!   
   > It's your right-wing extremist dream of America under   
   > Jesus! Just before God punishes all the Left and sucks you   
   > up via Rapture to play harps with Jesus.   
   > @)=   
   > `V` lol!   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> After Watergate, most Americans of my age group well   
   >>> understand the straightforward requirements for the   
   >>> removal of a President. Neither impeachment nor   
   >>> a Senate trial ever occurred since Nixon had found   
   >>> that resigning and "presidential immunity" were more   
   >>> than enough to save his authoritarian crooked butt.   
   >>   
   >> I wonder what you'd think if you were to find out   
   >> that Obama has his administration spy on Trump's   
   >> campaign during the 2016 presidential campaign?   
   >> Would you say Obama has a crooked butt? Probably   
   >> not, because you've shown that you have no real   
   >> principles. All you have is your partisan bias,   
   >> which determines whether you think something is   
   >> right or wrong.   
   >>>   
   >>> Donald could do the same, shutting off any legal   
   >>> retribution as Nixon did effectively, infuriating   
   >>> Democrats and many Americans.   
   >>   
   >> You actually believe that by resigning, Nixon   
   >> removed his legal culpability for having covered   
   >> up the Watergate break-in? You need to go back   
   >> and study what actually happened.   
   >>>   
   >>> It was then that many   
   >>> realized the 25th Amendment is antidemocratic and   
   >>> permits the rich and elite a way out of serving a   
   >>> prison sentence for a criminal offense.   
   >>   
   >> You really should educate yourself on what the   
   >> 25th Amendment actually says.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yet, a   
   >>> President can still be charged with a civil offense   
   >>> and brought to civil court during his tenure.   
   >>   
   >> That's true. That's what happened to Bill Clinton   
   >> with the Paula Jones civil lawsuit -- in which   
   >> Clinton originally lied under oath to get the   
   >> lawsuit dismissed, until the judge discovered   
   >> that Bill lied under oath in her court, and she   
   >> reinstated the case and fined Bill $90,000 and   
   >> he lost his law license for five years.   
   >>>   
   >>> There are hardly any older Americans that do not   
   >>> understand the process that you wrongly think they   
   >>> are ill informed of.   
   >>   
   >> Then I'm surprised that you gave this thread the   
   >> subject line you did.   
   >>>   
   >>> And that of course includes me   
   >>> who well recalls the Watergate debacle.   
   >>   
   >> I wonder how well you'll ever recall Obama's   
   >> spying on Trump's campaign in 2016?   
   >>>   
   >>> Donald can escape as Nixon did and it is likely that   
   >>> if overwhelming evidence awaits to convict him of a   
   >>> criminal offense,   
   >>   
   >> What criminal offense? Don't just make this kind   
   >> of false accusation without naming the crime.   
   >> Unless you know you're full of crap (which you   
   >> are), and therefore you have no real crime to   
   >> name (which is the reason you named no crime).   
   >>>   
   >>> he'd scoot away with a Nixonian legal maneuver.   
   >>   
   >> What was Nixon's legal maneuver?   
   >>>   
   >>> Or perhaps seek asylum in a host   
      
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