From: user6340@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   DocUFO  posted:   
   > On 2/20/2026 1:13 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > > DocUFO  posted:   
   > >> On 2/19/2026 3:09 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:   
   > >>> JTEM  posted:   
   > >>>> On 2/19/26 4:36 PM, DocUFO wrote:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> It suddenly came in a shocking majority vote   
   > >>>>> by the Senate to proceed with the impeachment   
   > >>>>> of DJT!!!.....   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Lol!  P.T. Barnum was an optimist...   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> You know that the Senate doesn't do that, CAN'T do that!   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I doubt Doc understood your point about the Senate   
   > >>> not voting to impeach. Just so Doc knows, it's the   
   > >>> House of Representatives that votes to impeach. It's   
   > >>> the Senate that conducts the trial, with the Chief   
   > >>> Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Then the Senate votes on whether or not the person   
   > >>> who was impeached will be removed from office.   
   > >>   
   > >> And just so that you understand that the entire basis of   
   > >> the A.I. prank is that I and most Americans know a   
   > >> President cannot be removed from office by a House   
   > >> majority vote for impeachment but only by a two-thirds   
   > >> majority vote in the Senate trial.   
   > >   
   > > Yet the subject line of this thread mentions the   
   > > Senate voting to impeach Trump. However, as you   
   > > now acknowledge, that's just not the way it works.   
   > >>   
   > >> No such situation has yet arisen in our history.   
   > >> They all escaped removal and punishment.   
   > >   
   > > By punishment, you mean removal from office, right?   
   >   
   > No, they were not removed and they were not punished.   
      
   So what is the punishment you believe to be   
   prescribed by the Constitution if a president   
   is impeached AND removed from office?   
   >   
   > No one spent a day in prison nor paid a fine.   
      
   So you think if Andrew Johnson, or Bill Clinton,   
   or Trump had been convicted in their Senate   
   trials and removed from office, they would have   
   been put in prison and/or paid a fine?   
   >   
   > Removal by itself is not punishment for criminal   
   > offenses.   
      
   So what is the additional punishment if those   
   impeached presidents had been removed from office?   
   >   
   > It's a prudent necessary action to stop any   
   > more criminality while in office.   
      
   What was Andrew Johnson's criminality? What was   
   Bill Clinton's criminality? What was Trump's   
   criminality that led to (in your imagination)   
   their impeachments? The kind of criminality   
   that you believe deserved prison sentences?   
   >   
   > >> The wrongdoers   
   > >> are protected from criminal punishment by the 25th   
   > >> Amendment.   
   > >   
   > > Oh, you actually think impeachment and removal from   
   > > office DOES involve criminal punishment? Because the   
   > > impeachment process in Congress does NOT prescribe   
   > > criminal punishment. And the 25th Amendment is not   
   > > what you apparently think it is.   
   >   
   > Does the 25th Amendment's sanctioning criminal behavior   
      
   Show me where, in the text of the 25th Amendment,   
   it sanctions criminal behavior?   
   >   
   > bother your sensitivities about justice being done   
   > while similar behavior anywhere else in our society is   
   > not tolerated by letting wrongdoers go free,   
      
   Are you kidding? Liberal judges constantly let   
   criminals go free, allowing those criminals to   
   commit further violent crimes against innocent   
   people. Are you really unaware of that fact?   
   >   
   > nor is   
   > pardoning criminals in prison unless evidence overturns   
   > their sentences.   
      
   You really don't understand the pardon power of   
   presidents and governors, do you? No, it's clear   
   that you don't. There are so many things you just   
   don't know.   
   >   
   > You might like to see Democrats beat up Capitol cops,   
      
   I don't like it when Democrats beat up ANY cops,   
   including when they attack ICE officers (who ARE   
   police officers, regardless of what your LYING   
   "mainstream" media tells you). I didn't like it   
   when Democrats beat up (and in some cases KILLED)   
   cops during the summer of 2020 "peaceful" riots   
   that happened all over the country. Do you even   
   know how many cops died during those riots? Not   
   to mention innocent civilians?   
      
   Just shut up with your incessant whining about   
   a few misguided people for a few short hours in   
   2021, when YOUR people set entire cities on fire   
   during the summer of 2020 -- and caused injuries   
   and DEATH to dozens of people all across the   
   country for days upon days!   
      
   And one more thing -- have you ever wondered why   
   the Capitol building was left so completely   
   unprotected on that day in 2021, when the powers   
   that be KNEW there might be trouble that day?   
   The Capitol Police Chief asked for National Guard   
   to be standing by, and he was told NO by none   
   other than the Sergeant-at-Arms who answered to   
   Nancy Pelosi (at the time).   
      
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