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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com
On 27/04/2023 3:36 am, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2023, Michael McLean wrote
> (in article ):
>
>> On 26/04/2023 2:14 pm, Robert wrote:
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, Michael McLean wrote
>>> (in article ):
>>>
>>>> On 26/04/2023 8:54 am, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
>>>>> (3) How can you explain it?
>>>>>
>>>>> - American Standard
>>>>> Exodus 33:11 And Jehovah spake unto Moses face to face, as a man
>>>>> speaketh unto his friend...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet the Bible says:
>>>>>
>>>>> -- New American Standard
>>>>> Exodus 33:20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see
>>>>> Me and live!"
>>>
>>> Exo 33:20
>>>
>>> 20 But you may not look directly at my face, for no one may see me and
>>> live.”
>>>
>>> Paul, when he and his fellows saw Jesus on the road to Damascus did not see
>>> him
>>> directly other than as a brilliant, Jesus who is God not tempered by a
human
>>> body was as he was when he spoke to Moses, He revealed himself to Moses in
a
>>> fashion that was similar to when he was here on earth as a human. Likewise
>>> when
>>> he visited Abraham in the desert. But Moses desired to see him in ALL his
>>> Glory, and Jehovah allowed that, but told him not to look upon His Face.
>>> And so
>>> as he passed by Moses, he put Moses in a cleft of a Rock so that Moses
could
>>> see his back side.
>>
>> No, you don't know. You are merely guessing according to your own
>> religious thinking. Bible does not substitute for the Spirit of
>> God/truth; it is only about Him, it is not Him.
>
> Eph 6:17And take the helmet of salvation, and thesword of the Spirit, which
is
> the word of God:
>
> Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any
> twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and
> of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of
the
> heart.
>
> This is the Bible, the Word of God unto men. The simple fact is that man,
> without the Spirit of God dwelling in him, and he with the ears to hear is
> provided with the understanding of God as he reads and meditates upon his
word.
>
> Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which isthe Holy Ghost, whom the Father will
send
> in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
> remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
> These truths may mean very little to you, nonetheless they are truth.
It is abundantly clear (a big understatement) to me and evident in my
life for 36 years: the Holy Spirit leads and reveals the way in which
you are to go, not Bible interpretations as a sinner sees fit.
But, it is your call, of course.
>
>>
>> "You can't speak as I speak"...you can't even tell who said that.
>
> You did. It was a thought in your head that you wrongly applied/
As I said.
>>
>>
>> Now, from the real Lord (not you trying to be Him)...God spoke to Moses
>> face to face in a "Pillar of Cloud;" that is why Joshua could stay.
>> Don't bother trying to beat the Spirit of God; you can't.
>
> It did not happen as you described it.
Well, you have your opinion, I have what the Lord revealed. Moses and
Joshua were in a pillar of cloud, and in a cloud you can speak face to
face with God and yet not see Him. That is good enougheth for me, as it
should be! What? Too simple? :-).
I don't want to argue about. Like with the James' conversation, the
Lord/Holy Spirit reveals to me what He reveals to me, as with all these
conversations, and James has his religion to try and defend, as do you.
One thing that has been emphasized of late, is that JW religion relies
on its religion to save them, as does the Catholics, Charismatics,
Duane's, Dana's, Sproul's, Washer's, Asbury, and all the rest.
You can flex the doctrines to suit your sinner states, you see, but the
Lord does not compromise; one of His infinitely marvelous qualities!
:-). How can you be sure of anything that compromises? You can't.
How much is one sin too many? Well, that depends, doesn't it, on the
sinner's opinion. :-). Reminds me of that saying, "One beer too many, a
thousand not enough." You know what I am saying, but is this the point
where you submit to calling me a "winebibber?" :-).
> There are online bibles
I don't need online bibles or the instructions and ideas of fallen men;
the Lord is always with me. Yes, whether you approve or not.
> that you can
> read and you can find in Deut 31:15 onwards what you are attempting to
recall.
>
> God has much to say, both to the individual and also to the corporate Body of
> Christ. He is fully aware of our daily lives and events over all time. Yet
the
> Bible is constant truth of Him, His desires for us, the way we should walk as
> Born Again believers, how to walk in the Spirit,
By the way, you don't "how" to walk in the Spirit of God, you either do
or you don't.
"You can't speak as I speak."
> as well as the spiritual gifts
> he has for us for the edification of all. His Prophecies stand and are still
> being fulfilled, and the latter day outpouring of the Holy Spirit is soon to
be
> in full operation, followed by his taking away of the Saints of God, both
> living and dead.
>
> Currently God is calling the prodigal sons. Make way for the LORD for He is
> good.
Of course He is good, but men are not. :-).
"Ye do err" regarding my personage and personhoodness, Robert. Greatly.
And it will certainly come out in the end. Ye have spake many untrue
things about me over the years, and yet here I am.
Michael
>>
>>
>> "Ye do err."
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>> You can read all about it if you cared to know.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are going to have to get a spiritual shovel and do some serious
>>>>> Bible digging on this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely James
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I don't need any Bible digging.
>>>>
>>>> As far as concerns me, let's see how much dirt you want to throw in my
>>>> face after (1) and (2), then we'll consider continuing or not.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>
>
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
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