XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christianity, alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com   
      
   On 12/05/2023 12:42 pm, El Kabong wrote:   
   > Michael McLean wrote:   
   >   
   >> no   
   > Yes   
   >   
   >> On 12/05/2023 10:19 am, El Kabong wrote:   
   >>> Michael McLean wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/05/2023 2:11 pm, El Kabong wrote:   
   >>>>> Michael McLean wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 10/05/2023 11:40 pm, James wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Also, see if you can answer the subject question above.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I can answer any question in your department because I have been there   
   >>>>>> and been through it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Great, here's a question you can answer:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Can God create himself?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yes or no, no evasive speeches please.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It is not a valid question - have you heard of them - because God is   
   >>>> eternal; He always was, is, and will be.   
   >>   
   >> El Kebab cooks up another one, and wrote:   
   >>> So your answer is no, because your God is constrained to   
   >>> exist within time, and time progresses linearly for the   
   >>> God, just like you experience it.   
   >>   
   >> God exists everywhere, El Fantasy Fanatic.   
   >>   
   >> Before time, through time, and after time.   
   >   
   > If time is not a barrier, then why can't she/he create   
   > itself?   
      
   Thick head.   
      
   Come back in 10 years, if you have that long, it won't be any different.   
      
   > There's no before and after unless it's within   
   > time.  There's no cause/effect either.   
      
   He is God and time isn't.   
      
   Tick tock.   
      
   > So God does her thing, then walks out the back door,   
   > walks in the back door, creates itself, and returns.  Who   
   > are you to forbid it?   
   >   
   > What is your conceptual stumbling block there?   
   >   
   > Besides, if s/h/it can't create themself, they aren't   
   > omnipotent.   
      
   He is creation, fool atheist.   
      
   You can't win.   
      
   >> But you seem to think you are greater than Him.   
   >   
   > That's your belief.  You believe I think i'm greater than   
   > Mickey Mouse too.   
      
   Mickey Mouse is a fictional character, but more real than you. I hope   
   that helps.   
      
   > What is, is usually greater than what ain't.   
      
   A nice atheist religious law, but only for atheists.   
      
      
      
   >>> So God, in your implementation, is not omnipotent, and   
   >>> the question was valid after all.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Or "I am that I am."   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Are you somewhere or nowhere?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yes or no, no evasive speeches please.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, o christly genius.   
   >>   
   >> Then you don't exist, oh great and powerful nothing creator.   
   >>   
   >> 1 x 0 = 0   
   >   
   > Highly illogical, Captain Projection.   
      
   You can't hide behind stupidity and ignorance and wrong, Buddy.  Dog's   
   balls.   
      
   Also, math isn't you greatest talent but I won't hold that against you.   
      
      
      
   >> You can't win because you are deluded.  You are just the fungi to play   
   >> with in all sorts of media to see if it grows!  :).   
   >>   
   >> No evidence so far.   
   >   
   > I'm sure you can relate on the fungal level.  You do know   
   > they pray, don't you.   
   >   
   > I have to admit, you are more fun than Bob or Skeetz or   
   > the Andrews sisters.   
   >   
   > Now don't reply to me any more.   
      
   Whatsamatta?  Afraid?  :).   
      
   You're one of the biggest deluded fools, but I won't hold that against   
   you either.   
      
   No matter what you are told, you manage to screw it up.   
      
   You'll see that soon enough, bullshit mouth.  Tick tock.   
      
      
      
      
      
   Michael   
      
      
   --   
   Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.   
      
   Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were   
   YET sinners, Christ died for us.   
      
   Jeremiah 10:23  O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it   
   is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.   
      
   Proverbs 12:15  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that   
   hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.   
      
   "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."   
      
   "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."   
      
   "What makes the bible the truth?  The resonance of God."   
      
   "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving   
   God with all their heart, soul and mind.  An abomination.  Therefore,   
   sin is not what you do, it is what you are."   
      
   "Compromise will condemn you."   
      
   "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."   
      
   "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."   
      
   "You can't learn righteousness.  Haven't you had enough time already to   
   know that?"   
      
   "The way of truth is the testimony of life."   
      
   "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall   
   where God intends."   
      
   "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."   
      
   "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all   
   live, by faith."   
      
   "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."   
      
   "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look   
   ahead."   
      
   "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."   
      
   "Priority is everything."   
      
   "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."   
      
   "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander   
   it or to place it where it truly belongs."   
      
   "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."   
      
   "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to   
   an ignorant straw man."   
      
   "Wait, rest, be still, and know."   
      
   "No man can wash his own hands!!!"   
      
   "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,   
   and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."   
      
   The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the   
   obvious).  So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"   
      
   "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."   
      
   "Man is not the centre of being."   
      
   "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."   
      
   "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."   
      
   "Man has no greater idol than his own will."   
      
   "Where is God hiding? He isn't."   
      
   "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."   
      
   "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's   
   willingness to believe."   
      
   "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,   
   and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."   
      
   "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always   
   full of hope."   
      
   "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass   
   through it so that you could play God."   
      
   "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."   
      
   "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven.  Such   
   is the love of God."   
      
   "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit   
   pretending he is the meaning of life."   
      
   "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is   
   still according to my power," says the Lord.   
      
      
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