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   Friend james mindlessly parrots a jw vatican claim to cover failed   
   predictions.  These failures were dates for His physicall return.   
      
   However they were drivento flip flop on the predictions, twice.   
      
   They said around 1895 and once again in 1914 Christ had returned but   
   invisible.  The first claim was abandoned and more "physical" predictions   
   followed, including 1914.  Once again the "invisble" claim was   
   "resurrected", so to speak to once again cover failed predictions.   
      
   Here are two scripture bits friend james has offfered, not his but   
   parroting the jw vatican excuses:   
      
   >>Acts 1:9 And when he had said this, as they were looking on, he was   
   >>lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.   
      
   also:   
      
   > 1 Corinthians 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a   
   >living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.   
      
   Here is the excuse taken, nay poured into the above bits:   
      
   When entering the cloud, He became invisible.  Well duh, had He just turned   
   a corner He would also now be "invisible" to observers, no?  There is no   
   reason to claim an "invisible" return.   
      
   Described as a "spirit" He had to be "invisible", no?   
      
   Note, it is just as easily a statement of the godhead,ie. one God in 3   
   ppersons, wait for it, including the Holy Spirit.  Does scripture claim   
   "spirits/ghosts" are invisible?   
      
   Consider also, the jw vatican claims Christ was but a recycled angel.   
   Angles are depicted in scripture as visible bings, poof, so muchfor the   
   "angel" theory.   
      
   Bottom line, seen in and of themselves no one would come away with the   
   "invisble" theory imposed pon then, poured backward 2000 years to invent an   
   excuse.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)