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   >>We noted that bethel, the name of the various jw vatican monastery's, was   
   >>inthe bible a name ffor a place of golden calf worship.   
   >   
   >It was also a place of fornication and wild parties. Also people were   
   >killed there.   
      
   Indeed, and the jw vatican named  its monasteries/headquarters for that   
   place anyway, no?   
   >>   
   >>Friend james took exception saing there were no monastery's with vows of   
   >>poverty; alas he like most jw vaticanfollowers is kept ignornt on many many   
   >>such topics.  Here a part of a scanned documents sent to the monks/nuns at   
   >>u.s. bethel monastery because of a change in the name of the "order" to   
   >>which the monks/nums took the following vows, easily found on the web by   
   >>its title:   
   >>   
   >>Bethel "Vow of Poverty"   
   >   
   >I don't much care about what happed in  the distant past. It's always   
   >NOW that is important, according to Jesus:   
   >   
   Smile, not the distant past, in recent times.  A confirmation of how the jw   
   vatican keeps members in ignorance, no?   
      
      
   >>VOW OF OBEDIENCE AND POVERTY to the ORDER OF SPECIAL FULL-TIME SERVANTS OF   
   >>JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES   
   >>   
   >>       As an ordained minister, wholly dedicated to Jehovah God. I hereby   
   >>express my solemn desire to be recognized as a member of the worldwide   
   >>Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah's Witnesses ("the Order"). I   
   >>vow as follows:   
   >>   
   >>       1. While a member of the Order, to live the simple, nonmaterialistic   
   >>life-style that has traditionally existed for members of the Order;   
   >>       2. In the spirit of the inspired words of the prophet Isaiah (Isaiah   
   >>6:8) and the prophetic expression of the psalmist (Psalm 110:3), to   
   >>volunteer   
   >>       my services to do whatever is assigned to me in the advancement of   
   >>Kingdom interests wherever I am assigned by the Order;   
   >>       3. To be submissive to the theocratic arrangement for members of the   
   >>Order (Hebrews 13:17);   
   >>       4. To devote my best full-time efforts to my assignment;   
   >>       5. To abstain from secular employment without permission from the   
   >>Order;   
   >>       6. To turn over to the local organization of the Order all income   
   >>received from any work or personal efforts in excess of my necessary living   
   >>       expenses, unless released from this vow by the Order;   
   >>       7. To accept such provisions for members of the Order (be they   
   >>meals, lodging, expense reimbursements, or others) as are made in the   
   >>country where   
   >>       I serve. regardless of the level of my responsibility or the value   
   >>of my services;   
   >>       8. To be content and satisfied with the modest support that I   
   >>receive from the Order as long as I am privileged to serve in the Order and   
   >>not to   
   >>       expect any further remuneration should I choose to leave the Order   
   >>or should the Order determine that I no longer qualify to serve in the   
   >>Order   
   >>       (Matthew 6:30-33: 1 Timothy 6:6-8; Hebrews 13:5);   
   >>       9. To abide by the principles set out in God's inspired Word, the   
   >>Bible. in publications of Jehovah's Witnesses. and in policies dispensed by   
   >>the   
   >>       Order, and to follow the directions of the Governing Body of   
   >>Jehovah's Witnesses; and   
   >>       10. To accept readily any decision made by the Order regarding my   
   >>membership status.   
      
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