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   No one to James   
   Re: (28) Opposers and apostates (1/2)   
   20 Jul 23 12:01:40   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy, alt.religion.christianity   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Jul 20, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > Opposers and apostates.   
   >   
   > There is always one true religion.In the OT it was the Israelites who   
   > were gifted with it. In the NT it was Jesus and his apostles. Then it   
   > was the Bible for a couple of thousands of years.   
   >   
   > But during those times Opposers and apostates ran rampant. But for a   
   > while God and Jesus kept such active ones at bay.   
   >   
   > From Jesus time to the present, Satan has been working hard to   
   > downgrade the Bible's doctrines. And this was to start once the   
   > apostles and Jesus passed off the scene. Notice:   
   >   
   > (Acts 20:29, 30) I know that after my going away oppressive wolves   
   > will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness,   
   > 30and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted   
   > things to draw away the disciples after themselves.   
      
   That was Paul speaking, Jesus spoke of these things in Matthew and other   
   Gospels while he still dwelled on this earth, before His death.   
      
   Jesus spoke thusly, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's   
   clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” (Mat 7:15)   
   In many scriptures and various ways.   
      
   Paul was speaking of the cults, such as your and so you are fulfilling v30 to   
   the detriment and destructions of you all, if you do not repent. As it stands   
   currently you are all accursed, as spoken by Paul as well.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Also, toward the end times, very difficult times would be happening:   
   >   
   > (2 Timothy 3:1-5) But know this, that in the last days critical times   
   > hard to deal with will be here. 2For men will be lovers of   
   > themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers,   
   > disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3having no natural   
   > affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without   
   > self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4betrayers,   
   > headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than   
   > lovers of God, 5having an appearance of godliness but proving false   
   > to its power; and from these turn away.   
   >   
   > Notice there was to be a FORM of the true religion, but it would be   
   > full of non truths as well. The apostates make themselves known by   
   > these things:   
      
   Yes, you have, as I just mentioned to you in another post   
      
   “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn   
   away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive   
   silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and   
   never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres   
   withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds,   
   reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their   
   folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.” (2Ti 3:5-9)   
      
   And for these things your cult is accursed.   
      
   >   
   > (Proverbs 11:9) 9By his mouth the apostate brings his neighbor to   
   > ruin,...   
      
   As the knock on the doors from house to house.   
   >   
   > Yes he speaks things contrary to the Bible. And those who listen to   
   > them he brings down also.   
      
   Which you do here as well as to your neighbors,   
   >   
   > 2 Thess 2:1-4,   
   >   
   > "2 However, brothers, concerning the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ   
   > and our being gathered together to him, we ask you 2not to be quickly   
   > shaken from your reason nor to be alarmed either by an inspired   
   > statement or by a spoken message or by a letter appearing to be from   
   > us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.   
   >   
   > 3Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come   
   > unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets   
   > revealed, the son of destruction. 4He stands in opposition and exalts   
   > himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he   
   > sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god"   
      
   2Th 2:1-4   
      
   1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and   
   by our gathering together unto him,   
      
   2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor   
   by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.   
      
   3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except   
   there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of   
   perdition;   
      
   4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is   
   worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself   
   that he is God.   
      
   Even the translation you quoted was deceitful and in error. This one is from   
   the KJV and I would have post ones in modern English for fluidity, but they   
   say the same thing   
      
   >   
   > Thus, like cancer attacks good cells, apostates and Opposers would be   
   > abundant in the last days because this is Satan's domain right now. (2   
   > Cor 4:4)   
      
   2Co 4:4   
      
   4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe   
   not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of   
   God, should shine unto them.   
      
   The JW does not believe nor accept Jesus as God. They claim to be of the   
   144,000 yet now their cult has more than that so they "adjusted" their tune.   
   Plus the Bible clearly states that these 144,000 are 12,000 you men, virgins   
   from all 12 tribes of Israel.   
      
   They are not Jews, they say that only men will see heaven, and then everyone   
   else is just dead. Imagine, to them Jesus was just a man amongst men, all the   
   prophets and Apostles are now just so much dust in the earth and will remain   
   so for all eternity.   
      
   So all people of all ages lived for nothing and until the JW came along, and   
   even so, of them only 144,000 Jewish young virgin men will get to live with   
   Jesus, whom they deny.   
      
   Amazing? You bet, since James is not young, nor is he a virgin, he was a RC,   
   not Jewish, and he will die and will never receive what the special 144K   
   young men will get. Same with all the other JW's.   
      
   Furthermore, none of the 144,000 are won over by men for the Bible states,...   
      
   Rev 7:2-4   
      
   2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the   
   living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was   
   given to hurt the earth and the sea,   
      
   3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have   
   sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.   
      
   4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an   
   hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of   
   Israel.   
      
   Therefore all these men were elected and reserved by God, and AFTER the   
   believers were all "raptured" out of this world.   
      
      
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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