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From: service@truecarpentry.org
James Wrote in message:r
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 12:17:43 -0700, tesla sTinker
wrote:>>>On 7/18/2023 10:39 AM, James scribbled:>> The Governments and
Scripture.>>>> We can't get away from governments. They surround us. They
order us.>> They punish us. They
help feed us.They help the sick. And many other>> things.>>>> Without
governments there would be chaos. Each person would just do>> what he
believes. That is one reason why God set up governments. And>> they help to
punish the wicked. Of course there are
those governments>> that are extremely corrupt. So what is a Christian's
response to>> governments? Should they collect weapons and try to overthrow
bad>> ones?>>>> Since God set them up, that would not be very wise.
Actually,>> Christians are to OBEY
the governments. Ro 13:1,>>>> (Romans 13:1) Let every person be in subjection
to the superior>> authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the
existing>> authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.>>It
says it right there in
front of your face and you still lie about it >you heretic. YOUR flawed
pagan Bible, for that is what it is, is full >of shit and it does not claim
anything of the sort, you are truly >dammed. No where does it say obey the
government. /BS And the
true >Bible is certainly clear, that you are not to obey it when it is
corrupt.>>You have no excuse to God for not being able to read the true Bible,
for >here it is you dammed to hell soul.>>https://truecarpentry.
rg/tccwww/cathwww/dogma/catholicbooks/
HolyBible/NewTestament/Romans.htm#chpt13Sorry you feel that way. I was raised
a Catholic and am familiar withit. I was never raped by a priest (thank God),
but was by its falsedoctrines. As for the government info presented, I will
use the Catholic Bible(
NAB) to verify it. Notice:- New American with ApocryphaRomans 13:1 Let every
person be subordinate to the higher authorities,for there is no authority
except from God, and those that exist havebeen established by God.-- New
American with ApocryphaTitus 3:
1 Remind them to be under the control of magistrates andauthorities, to be
obedient, to be open to every good enterprise.-- New American with
ApocryphaDaniel 2:44 In the lifetime of those kings the God of heaven will
setup a kingdom that shall never be
destroyed or delivered up to anotherpeople; rather, it shall break in pieces
all these kingdoms and put anend to them, and it shall stand forever. Yes, God
and Jesus will soon destroy all governments (kingdoms). Asyour Bible puts it:
-- New American with
ApocryphaRevelation 19:15 Out of his mouth came a sharp sword to strike
thenations. He will rule them with an iron rod, and he himself will treadout
in the wine press the wine of the fury and wrath of God thealmighty.Notice
what your Bible says: "Out of
his mouth came a sharp sword tostrike the nations."Yes, Jesus will destroy ALL
the governments. That is what I said in myposting, that you called lies. And
here your own Bible says the samething.Sincerely JamesSecret plans by
badgroups. Fear them?7/19/
23Go to jw.org>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, Christians must obey GOD first,
governments second. So if a>> government says to stop preaching etc, we follow
this Scripture:>>>> “We must obey God as ruler rather than men" (Acts 5:29)
And God and>> Jesus say:>>>>
(Matthew 28:19, 20) Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all>> the
nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son>> and of the
holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I>> have commanded
you. And look! I am with
you all the days until the>> conclusion of the system of things.”>>>> And this
prophecy:>>>> (Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the Kingdom will be
preached in>> all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and
then the>> end will come.>>>
> Thus preaching for Christians is a necessity.>>>> But surely 'good'
governments will be protected by God, since there>> might be many sincere
people in it.. But to the disappointment of>> many, there are no 'good'
governments. God will DESTROY them all.
Let>> me repeat. God will DESTROY them all. Love of country should not>>
override love of God. So they all are coming down soon, as these>> Scriptures
show:>>>> (Daniel 2:44) “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will
set>> up a kingdom that
will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not>> be passed on to any other
people. It will crush and put an end to all>> these kingdoms, and it alone
will stand forever,>>>> (Revelation 19:15, 16) And out of his mouth protrudes
a sharp, long>> sword
with which to strike the nations, and he will shepherd them with>> a rod of
iron. Moreover, he treads the winepress of the fury of the>> wrath of God the
Almighty. 16 On his outer garment, yes, on his thigh,>> he has a name written,
King of kings and
Lord of lords.>>>> So should Christians be involved in politics and helping to
run>> things? Why jump on the Titanic? You know its end. The Bible is clear.>>
Sincerely James>> Go see jw.org>>>>>>
Again, it does not say this. It says 2 faced sword, because of
your 2 faced lying kind you heretic full of enourmous apostasy.
And the others will get the same thing for their
abominations.
Jws go to hell for their lies. Lying through false non catholic
true Bibles. And their is no way without true apologetics for
you to obtain any forgiveness of sin. Or without true
sincerity.
You cannot divide truth heretic.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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