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XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
From: none@none.con
On Jul 24, 2023, James wrote
(in article<2k2tbi922hhugnf6crf0pef2igeep8uqq7@4ax.com>):
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 09:19:41 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Jul 22, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article<06hnbi1eftpofkmmaernibb3gvtp57odpv@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 12:01:40 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Jul 20, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article):
> > > >
> > > > > Opposers and apostates.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is always one true religion.In the OT it was the Israelites who
> > > > > were gifted with it. In the NT it was Jesus and his apostles. Then it
> > > > > was the Bible for a couple of thousands of years.
> > > > >
> > > > > But during those times Opposers and apostates ran rampant. But for a
> > > > > while God and Jesus kept such active ones at bay.
> > > > >
> > > > > From Jesus time to the present, Satan has been working hard to
> > > > > downgrade the Bible's doctrines. And this was to start once the
> > > > > apostles and Jesus passed off the scene. Notice:
> > > > >
> > > > > (Acts 20:29, 30) I know that after my going away oppressive wolves
> > > > > will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness,
> > > > > 30and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted
> > > > > things to draw away the disciples after themselves.
> > > >
> > > > That was Paul speaking, Jesus spoke of these things in Matthew and
other
> > > > Gospels while he still dwelled on this earth, before His death.
> > > >
> > > > Jesus spoke thusly, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in
> > > > sheep's
> > > > clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” (Mat 7:15)
> > > > In many scriptures and various ways.
> > > >
> > > > Paul was speaking of the cults, such as your and so you are fulfilling
v30
> > > > to
> > > > the detriment and destructions of you all, if you do not repent. As it
> > > > stands currently you are all accursed, as spoken by Paul as well.
> > >
> > > Any one who follows the letter of the Bible, is not accursed. You call
> > > the JW's a cult. Please show me the Scriptures that says we are a
> > > cult.Enquiring minds want to know.
> >
> > “But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the
> > heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men,
but
> > of God.” (Rom 2:29)
> >
> > “But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were
> > held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of
> > the letter.” (Rom 7:6)
> >
> > Just as the RCC nor the Orthodox, and others are not spoken of by name
> > neither is the JW.
> >
> > You all are in this manner. “Having a form of godliness, but denying the
> > power thereof: from such turn away.” (2Ti 3:5)
>
> You skipped the 1st 4 verses:
You missed the point. None of the things that Jesus did, does the JW do. You
deny the power of Jesus.
>
>
> (2 Timothy 3:1-4) But know this, that in the last days critical times
> hard to deal with will be here. 2For men will be lovers of
> themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers,
> disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3having no natural
> affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without
> self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4betrayers,
> headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than
> lovers of God,
>
> Non of that applies to JW's.
You cannot say that. Look even here in this reply of yours, your puffed up
pride, headstrong, never listening nor understanding. Slandering, not open to
agreement, boastful, haughty, etc. and the Bible that the JW is to adhere to
is full of deceit.
For instance, “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall
come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud,
blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural
affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of
those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more
than lovers of God;” (2Ti 3:1-4)
Covetous may include wealth, part of which may include money, but it is not
exclusively wealth.
> But it does to many church goers, and esp
> verse 5.Notice during WWII what churches were involved in the war.Was
> yours? I don't expect you to answer because it probably was.
Investing in war equipment is involvement with war. For you support it and
profit off from it. Thus you also enable it.
>
>
> Rather than compromise that relationship with God, many JW's chose
> death, or concentration camps.Of course, they at first try peace. But
> if that is refused, they don't compromise their faith.
What god have you a relationship with? You deny the Son of God, as God,
therefore you deny His teachings, and according to Jesus you have no
relationship with God the Father.
“Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also
before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men,
him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.” (Mat 10:32-33)
Jesus came down from heaven, yet you deny him, as did the Jew John 6
>
>
> Sincerely James
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, toward the end times, very difficult times would be happening:
> > > > >
> > > > > (2 Timothy 3:1-5) But know this, that in the last days critical times
> > > > > hard to deal with will be here. 2For men will be lovers of
> > > > > themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers,
> > > > > disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3having no natural
> > > > > affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without
> > > > > self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4betrayers,
> > > > > headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than
> > > > > lovers of God, 5having an appearance of godliness but proving false
> > > > > to its power; and from these turn away.
> > > > >
> > > > > Notice there was to be a FORM of the true religion, but it would be
> > > > > full of non truths as well. The apostates make themselves known by
> > > > > these things:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you have, as I just mentioned to you in another post
> > > >
> > > > “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such
> > > > turn
> > > > away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead
captive
> > > > silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning,
> > > > and
> > > > never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and
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