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   From: Robert@none.non   
      
   On Aug 1, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:37:00 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Jul 28, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 15:47:27 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Jul 22, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:19:24 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2023 09:45:21 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (in article<09d7bid86sem32abjkkb95od6nge39jrht@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 10:37:45 -0700, No one    
   wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > > (in article<19d5bi9m22pjrorp53lcv9c1hrjn5hbv0p@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > (John 4:23, 24) Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it   
   is now,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > when   
   > > > > > > > > > > > the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit   
   and truth,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to   
   worship   
   > > > > > > > > > > > him.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > 24God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must   
   worship with   
   > > > > > > > > > > > spirit   
   > > > > > > > > > > > and truth.”   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Joh 4:23-24   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > 23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true   
   worshippers shall   
   > > > > > > > > > > worship   
   > > > > > > > > > > the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh   
   such to   
   > > > > > > > > > > worship   
   > > > > > > > > > > him.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship   
   him in   
   > > > > > > > > > > spirit   
   > > > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > > > in truth.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > James, you used an adulterated version of the Bible, do   
   you see the   
   > > > > > > > > > > difference between the v24 in your version, and the proper   
   > > > > > > > > > > translation   
   > > > > > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > > > > > that scripture?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Well, let's take a look at it. In the NWT it reads:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > "(John 4:23, 24) Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is   
   now,   
   > > > > > > > > > when   
   > > > > > > > > > the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and   
   truth,   
   > > > > > > > > > for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to   
   worship him.   
   > > > > > > > > > 24God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship   
   with spirit   
   > > > > > > > > > and truth.”   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Here is verse 24 in several other Bible translations:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- King James   
   > > > > > > > > > John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must   
   worship him   
   > > > > > > > > > in spirit and in truth.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- American Standard   
   > > > > > > > > > John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must   
   worship in   
   > > > > > > > > > spirit and truth.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > > > > > John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must   
   worship in   
   > > > > > > > > > spirit and truth."   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Young's Bible   
   > > > > > > > > > John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit, and those worshipping Him, in   
   spirit and   
   > > > > > > > > > truth it doth behove to worship.'   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Darby's Bible   
   > > > > > > > > > John 4:24 God is a spirit; and they who worship him must   
   worship him   
   > > > > > > > > > in spirit and truth.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Weymouth's New Testament   
   > > > > > > > > > John 4:24 God is Spirit; and those who worship Him must   
   bring Him   
   > > > > > > > > > true spiritual worship."   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Webster's Bible   
   > > > > > > > > > John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him, must   
   worship   
   > > > > > > > > > [him] in spirit and in truth.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Again notice words. Not with, but "IN" spirit and "IN truth?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Showing a huge difference with your adulterated version.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Do you know what the difference is?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > In verse 24 some say "God is a spirit:". Other translations   
   say "God   
   > > > > > > > > > is spirit".   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > “And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I   
   pray God   
   > > > > > > > > > > your   
   > > > > > > > > > > whole   
   > > > > > > > > > > spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the   
   coming of   
   > > > > > > > > > > our   
   > > > > > > > > > > Lord   
   > > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ.” (1Th 5:23)   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > This is what a true believer is. The Born Again spirit is   
   not of   
   > > > > > > > > > > this   
   > > > > > > > > > > world,   
   > > > > > > > > > > but your soul and body are. For this reason,...   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > The Bible does not teach on an 'immortal soul' that the   
   churches   
   > > > > > > > > > teach. That teaching has its roots in the teachings of   
   Aristotle.The   
   > > > > > > > > > soul is NOT immortal: Here is the proof:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > > > > > Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the   
   father as   
   > > > > > > > > > well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins   
   shall die.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > So then what is a "soul"? According to the Bible it is the   
   whole   
   > > > > > > > > > person, or whole animal, etc. Notice carefully the wording   
   of Genesis   
   > > > > > > > > > 2:7:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- American Standard   
   > > > > > > > > > Genesis 2:7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the   
   ground, and   
   > > > > > > > > > breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man   
   became a   
   > > > > > > > > > living   
   > > > > > > > > > soul.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Yes, when Adam found himself alive, he BECAME a soul. He   
   wasn't   
   > > > > > > > > > 'given' a soul.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Even fish are souls in the Bible:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Darby's Bible   
      
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