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   No one to James   
   Re: (17) Christmas: A Christian celebrat   
   09 Aug 23 20:38:04   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy, alt.religion.christianity   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Aug 9, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 07:53:09 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Aug 8, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:27:59 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Jul 29, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article<2qv9ci1l9mvrj3kmmmqe1caceo8ih6qdd5@4ax.com>):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 11:01:21 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Jul 10, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 11:08:44 -0700, No one    
   wrote:   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > You neglected to point out that astronomers had pointed   
   our a star   
   > > > > > > > > > > > about   
   > > > > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > time of the birth of Christ that possibly led the   
   wisemen to Jesus.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > As I already said before, stars don't move, and then do   
   not stop   
   > > > > > > > > > > over   
   > > > > > > > > > > certain places.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Guess who was behind the moving 'star' that almost got   
   Jesus killed.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > It was God. The same God who told them,...   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > “And being warned of God in a dream that they should   
   not return   
   > > > > > > > > > to   
   > > > > > > > > > Herod,   
   > > > > > > > > > they departed into their own country another way.†(Mat   
   2:12)   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > That was God's actions. He never sent them. They were   
   astrologers. A   
   > > > > > > > > thing that God despised.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > There was a reason why they were sent. The bore with them Gold,   
   > > > > > > > > Silver,   
   > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > other expensive items worthy of a King.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > God did not need the astrologers to give them riches.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Yet he used them for His purpose.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > It was those things that enabled them to survive in Egypt when   
   God   
   > > > > > > > > told them to leave.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > .   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Satan has used the constellations, the names of which were   
   given by   
   > > > > > > > > God   
   > > > > > > > > is a   
   > > > > > > > > corrupt manner as the signs of the Zodiac to deceive men and   
   detract   
   > > > > > > > > from   
   > > > > > > > > God. Just as Satan uses the JW uses the cult of the JW.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > And just how are we a cult??   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > That is all you ever have been. Starting right off with your false   
   > > > > > > prophets.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Dedicated people trying to understand the Bible.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Without the spirit of God dwelling in them they are and were still   
   > > > > heathen.   
   > > > > Unwashed and unlearned.   
   > > >   
   > > > Then that is not them. They had Jehovah's Holy Spirit.   
   > >   
   > > That was and still is, them.   
   > > Had they the Holy Spirit in them they would not have mistranslated the   
   > > entire   
   > > Bible. Modifying so as to deceive and mislead the world at large. They   
   would   
   > > have recognized that Jesus is Jehovah. Thus God, made manifest in the   
   flesh.   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Most all cults are people dedicated to figuring things out, their way.   
   Not   
   > > > > God's way.   
   > > >   
   > > > True.They even stock up weapons and try to defy the government. Where   
   > > > the Bible says to obey the government:   
   > >   
   > > You mean like supporting all the weapons manufacturers financially thus   
   > > enabling them to produce more war weapons, and thus enrich their pockets?   
   > > Not   
   > > yours, mind you, you are also a money source for the elite in your cult. As   
   > > are the financial officers of your cult.   
   >   
   > The proof is in the pudding. Show me the pudding.   
      
   Look at your financials of the org.   
   >   
   > Most JW's don't get paid a penny for their service to God, unlike the   
   > churches which pay for everything.   
      
   That is a twisted understanding, most pastors are paid by their local   
   churches, as is their bldgs. And what is inside. the Bible says the workman   
   is worthy of his hire. Many pastors supplement their wages outside the   
   church/   
   >   
   >   
   > The JW elders take care of the congregation, make Sheppard calls,   
   > visit the sick, and even preach in prisons, etc. And you know how much   
   > they get paid? Zero, null, nothing, 0, nought, nil, zilch, nowt, none,   
   > nix, nada, zip. And they are just following the Bible   
      
   I heard one of them who lived nearby and was moving to a different area and   
   his truck rolled over with all his goods right in front of my home. He   
   climbed out of that truck screaming and cursing.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > - Revised Standard   
   > > > Romans 13:1 LET EVERY person be subject to the governing authorities.   
   > > > For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have   
   > > > been instituted by God.   
   > > >   
   > > > And they can hand out poison to kill everyone. Yet the Bible says to   
   > > > love your neighbor.   
   > >   
   > > Rom 13:1-2   
   > >   
   > > 1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power   
   > > but   
   > > of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.   
   > >   
   > > 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God:   
   > > and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.   
   > >   
   > > Do you see your rebellious hypocritical nature here? You point out One but   
   > > not Two. You select the 1st verse and construct a theory, but you rebel   
   > > against the second verse.   
   >   
   > On the contrary, JW' go right by the Bible. 1st verse and 2nd and all   
   > of them.   
      
   Odd, how you lie, knowing that isn't true, as I have shown you time and time   
   again.   
   >   
   >   
   > > When conscripted to fight for the country you   
   > > weasel out instead of submitting to them.   
   >   
   > Unlike the churches, JW's follow Jesus' words at Mt 5:44:   
   >   
   > -- Revised Standard   
   > Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those   
   > who persecute you,   
   > Most all the churches were involved in Killing the enemy with war   
   > weapons.   
      
   Prove it? You are going by the history of your previous church the RCC, and   
   so you assign their sins to all.   
   >   
   >   
   > > You balk at even following the   
   > > local laws as well, dishonoring them with your religious prideful natures.   
   > > And if these things be true, you will suffer damnation.   
   >   
   > Not true.JW's apply Titus 3:1,   
   >   
   > -- Revised Standard   
      
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