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   From: novalidemail@ymail.com   
      
   On 8/18/2023 12:17 PM, James wrote:   
   > On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 20:03:48 -0500, Just a guy   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 8/11/2023 1:34 PM, James wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 21:53:56 -0500, Just a guy    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 8/9/2023 6:32 PM, James wrote:   
   >>>>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 08:19:07 -0500, Just a guy    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 8/7/2023 7:47 AM, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 10:15:59 -0500, Just a guy    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 8/6/2023 5:45 AM, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 17:20:07 -0500, Just a guy    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 7/14/2023 7:36 AM, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Evolution: A Revolution against God   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Many people believe in evolution. Why? Because they pass it off as   
   a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> science .   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>         It is a science, James. It exists, just as the caterpillar   
   becomes   
   >>>>>>>>>> a butterfly after exiting the chrysalis.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> That is metamorphosis and is programmed within that caterpillar to   
   >>>>>>>>> change into a butterfly. How could a brainless force (evolution)   
   >>>>>>>>> create the complex DNA interactions to produce such a thing.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Similar to a corn seed turning into a stalk of corn, etc. DNA is   
   coded   
   >>>>>>>>> information.  You are giving brains to evolution to work out such   
   >>>>>>>>> codes.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The German code (enigma) in WWII took massive human brain power to   
   >>>>>>>>> crack it. Yet we are to believe the more complex codes in DNA came by   
   >>>>>>>>> RANDOM CHANCE? Don't you see brainwork, intelligence, behind   
   >>>>>>>>>       the DNA codes? At least admit that's a possibility.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Even many professed Christians accept it as do some large   
   >>>>>>>>>>> religious organizations like the Catholic church. Pope Francis is   
   not   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the first pontiff to publicly affirm that evolution is compatible   
   with   
   >>>>>>>>>>> church teachings.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It may be compatible with church teachings, but not the Bible's   
   >>>>>>>>> teachings.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible says that all living things were created. Didn't start   
   off   
   >>>>>>>>>>> small and evolve into each life form. Isa 42:5,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> "5 This is what the true God, Jehovah, says,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The Creator of the heavens and the Grand One who stretched them   
   out,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The One who spread out the earth and its produce,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The One who gives breath to the people on it   
   >>>>>>>>>>> And spirit to those who walk on it:"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> All of God's creations came fully formed. No evolving into   
   different   
   >>>>>>>>>>> species.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>        Wrong again James. the caterpillar becomes   
   >>>>>>>>>> a butterfly inside the chrysalis, then it leaves   
   >>>>>>>>>> to dry it's wings. It's a wonderful sight to behold.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>        The Tadpole becomes a frog, the frog was not fully formed at   
   >>>>>>>>>> birth.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You list two exceptions to thousands of life forms that were created   
   >>>>>>>>> fully formed. And these two exceptions esp the butterfly, shows the   
   >>>>>>>>> wisdom of God. But of course, you can't see that since you (and I)   
   >>>>>>>>> have been programmed by educational institutions to believe only   
   >>>>>>>>> evolution.That is sad.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>       You should give yourself and me a little more credit than that   
   >>>>>>>>       as neither of us are that bad off. We both realize that it takes   
   >>>>>>>>       and intelligence to program an outcome. From where I stand   
   evolution   
   >>>>>>>>       is a useful and intelligent tool, created by someone much more   
   >>>>>>>>       intelligent. But to label this "God" is a leap in logic. I'm   
   more   
   >>>>>>>>       inclined to see hints say the universe is alive and insightful.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I know. And they say the earth is alive. Well if it is, it is surely   
   >>>>>>> being a bad earth.   
   >>   
   >>          You tell me then, has mankind been good to the Earth?   
   >   
   > I'll let the Bible answer that one:   
   >   
   > - American Standard   
   > Revelation 11:18  And the nations were wroth, and thy wrath came, and   
   > the time of the dead to be judged, and the time to give their reward   
   > to thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and to them that fear   
   > thy name, the small and the great; and to destroy them that destroy   
   > the earth.   
   >>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Frogs by the way, don't start out as tadpoles, but as eggs. Thousands   
   >>>>>>>>> of species start out as eggs. So do caterpillars.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>        But that does not make them fully formed, and therein lies the   
   >>>>>>>>        proof that they are not born fully formed.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Actually they are.   
   >>   
   >>         Come on James, be honest and rational, please. For some creature   
   >> such as butterflies and frogs they live in a series of changes. If they   
   >> were fully formed then the would not be going into metamorphosis to   
   >> finish the birthing process.   
   >   
   > Honesty is my middle name, so to speak. I never say anything that I   
   > don't believe is false. I have a lot of imperfections, but being   
   > honest is not one of them.   
   >   
   > They were created to go through that. That is their design. At the end   
   > of it, they are still butterflies. And at the end of it, they are   
   > still frogs. They haven't turned into snakes or something.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   They didn't start off as a virus or something, and   
   >>>>>>> evolve into a caterpillar which then evolved into something else etc,   
   >>>>>>> and finally became a butterfly. When God created the caterpillar egg,   
   >>>>>>> he had ALL the DNA coded to become eventually a butterfly. Thus it was   
   >>>>>>> fully created right from the start. No evolving.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Sincerely James   
   >>>>>>> Starvation.   
   >>>>>>> Why?   
   >>>>>>> 8/7/23   
   >>>>>>> Go to jw.org   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>        Perhaps God did not create these 2?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You are right. Just a force (not even a solid thing) with no body or   
   >>>>>>>>> mind, figured out DNA  and made each life form with it. You have got   
   >>>>>>>>> to have more intelligence than that.   
   >>>>>>>>   
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