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   >>Friend james seeks help to understand:   
   >>   
   >>>Matthew 6:7 "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition   
   >>>as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their   
   >>>many words.   
   >>   
   >>Hmm, given the subject line, should jw memorize and repeat the lord's   
   >>prayer?  It follows the above in   averse or so and must be related to the   
   >>above, no?   
   >>   
   >>The "meaningless"; or "vain" in the kjv is the subject and thus an   
   >>important key in understanding.  In my faith tradition the phrase "Lord   
   >>have mercy" is most often spoken in a set of 3.  Is that phrase a   
   >>"meaningless/vain" petition of God?   
   >   
   Friend james condems self:   
      
   >To pray by rote is not Biblical.   
   >   
   Ah, the answer to  the jw vatican using the Lord's prayer, no?  The frist   
   christians continued in the jwish synagogue prayers and practices, they are   
   recited often in a from each repeated in their worship and prayers.  Thus   
   friend james has condemned the apostles/disciples etc. based on jw vatican   
   definition 2000 years later , no?.   
   >>   
   >>If a jw prays "we ask God" and repeated as "we also ask God"multiple times   
   >>in a list of petitions; in worship/prayer does the above apply?   
   >   
   >It always applies. The prayer might list about the same items most of   
   >the time, but it is not memorized but is spontaneous.   
   >>   
   Smile, sure sure; need it be memorized to be ""repetition"" as above?  But   
   more jw vatican current ideas forced into scripture 2000 years later, no?   
   >>It appears more likely this is but another example of the jw vatican   
   >>pouring backward current ideas into words 2000 years ago to fluff up their   
   >>own image .   
   >   
   >Your opinion is noted.   
   >   
   Bingo, friend james finds himself left without a rotely memorized jw   
   vatican plugin to use and left dangleing, no??   
      
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