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   >>There has been an unbroken christian witness for 2000 years.   
   >>   
   >>In the last 1/4 of the 19th centry a new never seen before religion arose.   
   >>It can *NOT* show any unbroken witness these 2000 years.  "Believe me" it   
   >>declars; why you ask; "'cause we told you so".   
   >>   
   >>The NT is full of warnings of those to come who would try to decieve those   
   >>in the truth. A 2000 year witness vs. 150 years from a jonny come lately   
   >>religion from the mind of one man, to whom does the NT warnings apply?   
   >>   
   >>Christ said His church would prevail through time, did He lie?   
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   Bingo, friend james self identifies the huge 1885 year gap of the jw   
   vatican.  Per Christ's statement His church would prevail unbroken through   
   these 1885 years the place of the jw vatican is confirmed.   
      
   It fits those in times to come whold have false teachers who would turn   
   away  fromthose in the truth to decieve them.   
      
   >Interestingly, the NT foretold the arrival of the JW's. For instance:   
   >   
   >Matthew 24:14  ``And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached   
   >throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it, and   
   >then, finally, the end will come.   
   >   
   >JW's are the only ones doing this on a WORLDWIDE and extensive scale.   
   >   
   Nonsense; there are many faith traditions who fit and surpass the jw   
   vatican on those grounds.  My faith tradition has a 1885 year headstart on   
   declaring the kingdom which came at pentecost. .  The 1st century saw the   
   spread of its missionaries from spain to india declaring the kingdom.   
      
   >Also the OT predicted them:   
   >Isa 2:2-4,   
   >   
   > 2.  And it shall come to pass in the latter days, that the mountain   
   >of Jehovah's house shall be established on the top of the mountains,   
   >and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto   
   >it.   
   > 3.  And many peoples shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to   
   >the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will   
   >teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion   
   >shall go forth the law, and the word of Jehovah from Jerusalem.   
   > 4.  And he will judge between the nations, and will decide concerning   
   >many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and   
   >their spears into pruning-hooks; nation shall not lift up sword   
   >against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. (ASV)   
   >   
   >Yes, JW's were to rise in the "latter days"   
   >   
   Yes, many false teachers will arise to decieve; the NT says.  one of them   
   showed up after 1885 years, never never seen in Christ's unbroken kingdom.   
      
   >>From a mormon page, another 19th century religion from one man for the few:   
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   >>The Straight and Narrow Way   
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   >>https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1   
   90/10/the-straight-and-narrow-way?lang=eng   
      
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