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XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
From: none@none.con
On Sep 20, 2023, James wrote
(in article<711ngidapu5miv9ovbdirepht5fjba6qhl@4ax.com>):
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:52:58 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Sep 20, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > You are treating the Bible like any other book. God's word does not
> > > change. If sheol was the grave in the OT, it still was in the NT. God
> > > does not change"
> >
> > Pardon me for interrupting your "servant "friend""
> >
> > But in response to your statement above let me show you and OT scripture
> > that
> > counteracts your words.
> >
> > “They shall go down to the bars of the pit, when our rest together is in
> > the dust.” (Job 17:16)
> >
> > (ESV)Will it go down to the bars of Sheol? Shall we descend together into
> > the dust?”
> >
> > (NKJV)Will they go down to the gates of Sheol? Shall we have rest together
> > in the dust?"
> >
> > (YLT)To the parts of Sheol ye go down, If together on the dust we may rest.
> > Do you require more proof that God never contradicts himself?
>
> Yes, sheol is the grave where people "rest".
It is the pit of hell, isolated from the spot where the body is buried.
Read the verse again where do you see gates on all burial sites that are in
the ground. The dust references the dirt you dig up.
Isaiah wrote;
“I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most
High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.”
(Isa 14:14-15)
Again the word sheol is translated as Hell, Hades, hell.
1) sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit
1a) the underworld
1b) Sheol - the OT designation for the abode of the dead
1b1) place of no return
1b2) without praise of God
1b3) wicked sent there for punishment
1b4) righteous not abandoned to it
1b5) of the place of exile (figuratively)
1b6) of extreme degradation in sin
And I leave you be with these verses from Ezekiel.
Eze 32:18-26
18 Son of man, wail for the multitude of Egypt, and cast them down,even her,
and the daughters of the famous nations, unto the nether parts of the earth,
with them that go down into the pit.
19 Whom dost thou pass in beauty? go down, and be thou laid with the
uncircumcised.
20 They shall fall in the midst of them that are slain by the sword: she is
delivered to the sword: draw her and all her multitudes.
21 The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell
with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by
the sword.
22 Asshur is there and all her company: his graves are about him: all of them
slain, fallen by the sword:
23 Whose graves are set in the sides of the pit, and her company is round
about her grave: all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which caused terror
in the land of the living.
24 There is Elam and all her multitude round about her grave, all of them
slain, fallen by the sword, which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether
parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living; yet
have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit.
25 They have set her a bed in the midst of the slain with all her multitude:
her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the
sword: though their terror was caused in the land of the living, yet have
they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit: he is put in the
midst of them that be slain.
26 There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round about
him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused their
terror in the land of the living.
All of these scriptures, the doctrine of God flies in the face of all that
are unholy. This is the fate of those that deny that Jesus is God.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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