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   On Sep 24, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:13:15 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 22, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article<7osqgid0ku3mdnge9du0eprum81dfr2d6l@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 19:47:40 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Sep 21, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Paradise earth?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Most righteous people think they go to Heaven when they die. They   
   > > > > > would assume the righteous ones in the OT did also. But Jesus said   
   > > > > > NO!. To repeat, Jesus said no OT servant of God went to Heaven. None,   
   > > > > > zilch, zero.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You are a bit behind the eight ball in understanding here, of course   
   the   
   > > > > dead   
   > > > > did not, Only the two men who never died, the others went to Paradise.   
   > > >   
   > > > If you take all the Bible literally, you can come up with weird   
   > > > concepts..Back up your statement. Scriptures please.   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven but he who descended from   
   > > > > > heaven, the Son of man.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Nor not even John the Baptist of the NT: Here is the PROOF:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Even John the Baptist of the NT did not make it to Heaven: Jesus   
   again   
   > > > > > said:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > Matthew 11:11 Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there   
   > > > > > has risen no one greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least   
   in   
   > > > > > the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > But some my say,in Peter, 'the earth will be destroyed. That is   
   > > > > > symbolism. The earth will exist forever: Ec 1:4,   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever."   
   > > > > > (NIV)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Meaning until the end of its time. You have been shown that countless   
   > > > > times.   
   > > >   
   > > > If something has an END, it is not eternal.   
   > > >   
   > > > Also, that is not what that Hebrew word means. Here is Strong's   
   > > > Concordance on "forever".   
   > > >   
   > > > Strong's Ref. # 5769   
   > > >   
   > > > Romanized `owlam   
   > > > Pronounced o-lawm'   
   > > >   
   > > > or `olam {o-lawm'}; from HSN5956; properly, concealed, i.e. the   
   > > > vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future), i.e.   
   > > > (practically) eternity; frequentatively, adverbial (especially with   
   > > > prepositional prefix) always:   
   > > >   
   > > > As you can see, it also means "eternity".   
   > >   
   > > ?o?la?m   
   > >   
   > > BDB Definition:   
   > >   
   > > 1) long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting,   
   > > evermore,   
   > > perpetual, old, ancient, world   
   > >   
   > > 1a) ancient time, long time (of past)   
   > >   
   > > 1b) (of future)   
   > >   
   > > 1b1) for ever, always   
   > >   
   > > 1b2) continuous existence, perpetual   
   > >   
   > > 1b3) everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternity   
   > >   
   > > Yes, it also used as "eternity" but that is not its primary meaning, and   
   > > since the scriptures cannot go against itself, then it is obvious that   
   since   
   > > the earth will burn up, that this earth will not remain for an eternity no   
   > > more than your body will.   
   > >   
   > > James, countless times we have been through all of this, and you have been   
   > > given many, many scriptures on all of these topics. Scriptures you cannot   
   > > explain away not can your cult do so.   
   >   
   > What Scriptures? There is none that I cannot explain. If you make a   
   > Scripture claim, try to back it up   
      
   All the scriptures I have repeatedly requoted to you over the years. You had   
   no ears to hear, and you ignored many.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > This earth is polluted as are the heavens above it. For that reason   
   they   
   > > > > will be destroyed,   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You know nothing about why there are two covenants, the Old one   
   fulfilled,   
   > > > > the New remains, and you know not God.   
   > > >   
   > > > I'll let God decide that.   
   > >   
   > > He already did.   
   >   
   > No one knows God unless it is through the Holy Bible. And I can   
   > honestly say you don't know the Bible that well. The thought that the   
   > earth will be burned up illustrates my point. That would make Jesus a   
   > liar then!   
      
   I have tried explaining that to you by other scriptures as well as the   
   original definitions and lexicons of the language used in that day. I have   
   also done so recently.   
   >   
   >   
   > -- Revised Standard   
   > Matthew 5:5 "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.   
   > We are still in the 7th day, God's rest day.Paul tells us this at   
   > Hebrews 4: 1-5,   
   >   
   > " 1. Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us   
   > fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it.   
   > 2. For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but   
   > the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with   
   > faith in those who heard it.   
   > 3. For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: "So   
   > I swore in My wrath, they shall not enter My rest,'' although the   
   > works were finished from the foundation of the world.   
   > 4. For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this   
   > way: "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works'';   
   > 5. and again in this place: "They shall not enter My rest.'' "   
   >   
   > So it is unlikely that God will create a literal "new earth".   
      
   OH? Unlikely"? Thus you admit your doubts that it might be as I have quoted   
   the related scripture, that you call Jesus a :liar: on.   
      
   This is why pearls are not to be cast before swine.   
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   > > > > > Ps 78:69,   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > " He built his shrine like the heavens, like the earth which he   
   > > > > > founded forever. " (NAB)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Since the earth will always be around, most righteous ones will live   
   > > > > > there forever. But haven't men almost destroyed the environment?   
   > > > > > Yes, but God will take care of it:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > This earth will be burnt up along with the solar system, and you know   
   the   
   > > > > Bible teaches that.   
   > > >   
   > > > I know what the Bible says about it. Why would God destroy the solar   
   > > > system? He worked hard to create it. (Gen 1:1)   
   > >   
   > > He didn't work hard to create it. He is going to destroy it due to its   
   > > pollution by men as well as Satan and his cohorts. Besides the dead bodies   
   > > of   
   > > men, and space equipment, there is the pollution of electronic signals,   
   > > porn,   
   > > anti-god teachings in the air waves as well as all of space all the videos,   
   > > etc, it is polluted, heavily so.   
   >   
   > Men have not damaged the rest of the solar system like they have the   
      
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