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XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
From: none@none.con
On Sep 24, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 20:56:43 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Sep 22, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article<41bsgihe97kms9d21vep2ivqtq5sdd5d4e@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:40:06 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sep 22, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article):
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 18:11:51 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 20, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > (in article<711ngidapu5miv9ovbdirepht5fjba6qhl@4ax.com>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:52:58 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sep 20, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You are treating the Bible like any other book. God's word
does not
> > > > > > > > > change. If sheol was the grave in the OT, it still was in
the NT. God
> > > > > > > > > does not change"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pardon me for interrupting your "servant "friend""
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But in response to your statement above let me show you and OT
> > > > > > > > scripture
> > > > > > > > that counteracts your words.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > “They shall go down to the bars of the pit, when our rest
together
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the dust.” (Job 17:16)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (ESV)Will it go down to the bars of Sheol? Shall we descend
together
> > > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > the dust?”
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (NKJV)Will they go down to the gates of Sheol? Shall we have
rest
> > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > in the dust?"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (YLT)To the parts of Sheol ye go down, If together on the dust
we may
> > > > > > > > rest.
> > > > > > > > Do you require more proof that God never contradicts himself?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, sheol is the grave where people "rest".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is the pit of hell, isolated from the spot where the body is
buried.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Read the verse again where do you see gates on all burial sites
that are
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the ground. The dust references the dirt you dig up.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can only tell you what the Bible says. What you do with it is up to
> > > > > you.
> > > >
> > > > But you do not tell us, you try to deceive us with half truths,
> > > > distortions,
> > > > and outright lies.
> > >
> > > Please:
> > >
> > > Give me an example of my alleged "half truths"
> > > Give me an example of my alleged "distortions.
> > > Give me an example of my alleged "lies"
> >
> > I have given you many. I could give you a thousand more, but with your
> > hardened heart you will choose to hear no better than before.
>
> Read what the voice of the Heavenly Father has to say about you and
> all the others:
>
> -- New King James
> Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all
> the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
> JW's are the only one's preaching the kingdom message as declared in
> the Bible. For example, on the cover of their world-wide distribution
> of their Bible-aid magazine, the Watchtower it says:
>
> ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM.
Did you read what you wrote just above ;)
What have I been telling you about Jesus as Jehovah? The scriptures I quoted,
and your disagreement with them because you say that Jesus is not God?
Yet here you are proudly backing up what I showed you, and talking out the
other side of your mouth. All you do is sow confusion to yourself and the
seeds of confusions to the JW's around you.
Fact is I just quoted from Jeremiah a prophecy he had to the future
Israelites, wherein Jesus will be the King of the Millennial Kingdom here on
earth, after which is the white throne judgment and then the burning up of
the earth and the heavens about it.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
>
>
> Also notice these Scriptures applied to the JW's in later times:
There will be no organization of JW's in the latter times, there will be
144,000 who will testify of Jesus during the seven year tribulation, all of
which will be killed by the 3.5 year mark IIRC.
You can argue all you wish, but you, of the spirit of antichrist, are in full
error. And you cannot dispute the simple fact that you are anti Jesus as God.
>
>
> Isa 2:2-4,
>
> 2. And it shall come to pass in the latter days, that the mountain
> of Jehovah's house shall be established on the top of the mountains,
> and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto
> it.
> 3. And many peoples shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to
> the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will
> teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion
> shall go forth the law, and the word of Jehovah from Jerusalem.
> 4. And he will judge between the nations, and will decide concerning
> many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and
> their spears into pruning-hooks; nation shall not lift up sword
> against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. (ASV)
>
> Yes, JW's are from all the nations. They have gotten rid of any
> weapons. And they don't go to wars anymore.
>
> Sincerely James
> Coming. The removal
> of bad government leaders.
> 9/24/23
> Go to jw.org
>
> >
> > Read what the voice of the Heavenly Father has to say about you and all the
> > JW's found in 1 John 4: 1-3
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Isaiah wrote;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > “I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like
the
> > > > > > most
> > > > > > High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the
> > > > > > pit.”
> > > > > > (Isa 14:14-15)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again the word sheol is translated as Hell, Hades, hell.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's just what I said.
> > > >
> > > > Really? Didn't you claim it to be the Grave?
> > >
> > > Yes, it is all of those things: grave= hell=hades.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1a) the underworld
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1b) Sheol - the OT designation for the abode of the dead
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1b1) place of no return
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1b2) without praise of God
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1b3) wicked sent there for punishment
> > > > > >
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