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From: none@none.con
On Sep 25, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 15:24:27 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Sep 24, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 20:56:43 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sep 22, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article<41bsgihe97kms9d21vep2ivqtq5sdd5d4e@4ax.com>):
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:40:06 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 22, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 18:11:51 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sep 20, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article<711ngidapu5miv9ovbdirepht5fjba6qhl@4ax.com>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:52:58 -0700, No one
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 20, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You are treating the Bible like any other book. God's
word does not
> > > > > > > > > > > change. If sheol was the grave in the OT, it still was
in the NT.
> > > > > > > > > > > God
> > > > > > > > > > > does not change"
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Pardon me for interrupting your "servant "friend""
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But in response to your statement above let me show you
and OT
> > > > > > > > > > scripture
> > > > > > > > > > that counteracts your words.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > “They shall go down to the bars of the pit, when our
rest together
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > the dust.” (Job 17:16)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (ESV)Will it go down to the bars of Sheol? Shall we
descend together
> > > > > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > > the dust?”
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (NKJV)Will they go down to the gates of Sheol? Shall we
have rest
> > > > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > > in the dust?"
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (YLT)To the parts of Sheol ye go down, If together on the
dust we
> > > > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > rest.
> > > > > > > > > > Do you require more proof that God never contradicts
himself?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, sheol is the grave where people "rest".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is the pit of hell, isolated from the spot where the body is
> > > > > > > > buried.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Read the verse again where do you see gates on all burial
sites that
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the ground. The dust references the dirt you dig up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can only tell you what the Bible says. What you do with it is
up to
> > > > > > > you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But you do not tell us, you try to deceive us with half truths,
> > > > > > distortions,
> > > > > > and outright lies.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please:
> > > > >
> > > > > Give me an example of my alleged "half truths"
> > > > > Give me an example of my alleged "distortions.
> > > > > Give me an example of my alleged "lies"
> > > >
> > > > I have given you many. I could give you a thousand more, but with your
> > > > hardened heart you will choose to hear no better than before.
> > >
> > > Read what the voice of the Heavenly Father has to say about you and
> > > all the others:
> > >
> > > -- New King James
> > > Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all
> > > the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
> > > JW's are the only one's preaching the kingdom message as declared in
> > > the Bible. For example, on the cover of their world-wide distribution
> > > of their Bible-aid magazine, the Watchtower it says:
> > >
> > > ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM.
> >
> > Did you read what you wrote just above ;)
> >
> > What have I been telling you about Jesus as Jehovah? The scriptures I
> > quoted,
> > and your disagreement with them because you say that Jesus is not God?
> >
> > Yet here you are proudly backing up what I showed you, and talking out the
> > other side of your mouth. All you do is sow confusion to yourself and the
> > seeds of confusions to the JW's around you.
>
> Preaching the Kingdom message at Mt 24:14 worldwide is confusing to
> you? It shouldn't be. Its plain English.
That has nothing to do with the subject at hand, and the JW does not preach
it. They do not even know what it is all about.
>
> > Fact is I just quoted from Jeremiah a prophecy he had to the future
> > Israelites, wherein Jesus will be the King of the Millennial Kingdom here
on
> > earth, after which is the white throne judgment and then the burning up of
> > the earth and the heavens about it.
>
> Wow, you are short changing God. Yes, Jesus will be the king in God's
> Kingdom and rule over the earth: but from HEAVEN. No one on earth will
> ever see him again. HERE IS THE PROOF!
>
> -- Revised Standard
> John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world will see me no more, but
> you will see me; because I live, you will live also.
>
> Of course by "world" it means all the people on it.
There is your deception, as He will return and stated it quite clearly. Also
Ezekiel described his Temple in Jerusalem, where he will rule on earth for a
thousand years. The phrase "no more" did not men ever again,...
Zec 12:10
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of
Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon
me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for
his onlyson, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness
forhis firstborn.
“And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they
pierced.” (Joh 19:37)
“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also
which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so, Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the
Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.” (Rev
1:7-8)
This is what the scripture says, yet you deny it.
>
>
> >
> > You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
>
> Actually I type on a computer.
With both hands, and the right does not know what the left does.
>
> >
> > > Also notice these Scriptures applied to the JW's in later times:
> >
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