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   On Sep 25, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 14:31:29 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 24, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:13:15 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Sep 22, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article<7osqgid0ku3mdnge9du0eprum81dfr2d6l@4ax.com>):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 19:47:40 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Sep 21, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Paradise earth?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Most righteous people think they go to Heaven when they die. They   
   > > > > > > > would assume the righteous ones in the OT did also. But Jesus   
   said   
   > > > > > > > NO!. To repeat, Jesus said no OT servant of God went to Heaven.   
   None,   
   > > > > > > > zilch, zero.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > You are a bit behind the eight ball in understanding here, of   
   course the   
   > > > > > > dead   
   > > > > > > did not, Only the two men who never died, the others went to   
   Paradise.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > If you take all the Bible literally, you can come up with weird   
   > > > > > concepts..Back up your statement. Scriptures please.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > > > John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven but he who descended   
   from   
   > > > > > > > heaven, the Son of man.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Nor not even John the Baptist of the NT: Here is the PROOF:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Even John the Baptist of the NT did not make it to Heaven: Jesus   
   again   
   > > > > > > > said:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > > > Matthew 11:11 Truly, I say to you, among those born of women   
   there   
   > > > > > > > has risen no one greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is   
   least in   
   > > > > > > > the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > But some my say,in Peter, 'the earth will be destroyed. That is   
   > > > > > > > symbolism. The earth will exist forever: Ec 1:4,   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > "Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains   
   forever."   
   > > > > > > > (NIV)   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Meaning until the end of its time. You have been shown that   
   countless   
   > > > > > > times.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > If something has an END, it is not eternal.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Also, that is not what that Hebrew word means. Here is Strong's   
   > > > > > Concordance on "forever".   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Strong's Ref. # 5769   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Romanized `owlam   
   > > > > > Pronounced o-lawm'   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > or `olam {o-lawm'}; from HSN5956; properly, concealed, i.e. the   
   > > > > > vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future), i.e.   
   > > > > > (practically) eternity; frequentatively, adverbial (especially with   
   > > > > > prepositional prefix) always:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > As you can see, it also means "eternity".   
   > > > >   
   > > > > ?o?la?m   
   > > > >   
   > > > > BDB Definition:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1) long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting,   
   > > > > evermore,   
   > > > > perpetual, old, ancient, world   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1a) ancient time, long time (of past)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1b) (of future)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1b1) for ever, always   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1b2) continuous existence, perpetual   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1b3) everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternity   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Yes, it also used as "eternity" but that is not its primary meaning,   
   and   
   > > > > since the scriptures cannot go against itself, then it is obvious that   
   > > > > since   
   > > > > the earth will burn up, that this earth will not remain for an   
   eternity no   
   > > > > more than your body will.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > James, countless times we have been through all of this, and you have   
   been   
   > > > > given many, many scriptures on all of these topics. Scriptures you   
   cannot   
   > > > > explain away not can your cult do so.   
   > > >   
   > > > What Scriptures? There is none that I cannot explain. If you make a   
   > > > Scripture claim, try to back it up   
   > >   
   > > All the scriptures I have repeatedly requoted to you over the years. You   
   had   
   > > no ears to hear, and you ignored many.   
   >   
   > I only want to share Bible truths with people.I have usually   
   > researched many Scriptures, and believe they are Bible truths.That's   
   > the best I can do.   
      
   Your perceived "truths" but not the scriptures as written. You lie, without   
   remorse/   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > This earth is polluted as are the heavens above it. For that   
   reason they   
   > > > > > > will be destroyed,   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > You know nothing about why there are two covenants, the Old one   
   > > > > > > fulfilled,   
   > > > > > > the New remains, and you know not God.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > I'll let God decide that.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > He already did.   
   > > >   
   > > > No one knows God unless it is through the Holy Bible. And I can   
   > > > honestly say you don't know the Bible that well. The thought that the   
   > > > earth will be burned up illustrates my point. That would make Jesus a   
   > > > liar then!   
   > >   
   > > I have tried explaining that to you by other scriptures as well as the   
   > > original definitions and lexicons of the language used in that day. I have   
   > > also done so recently.   
   >   
   > I have done similar things with the Scriptures, and stand by my   
   > beliefs. Things like God is a three-headed freak, He burns his   
   > children forever with fire, The righteous go right to Heaven when they   
   > die.(we know for sure that none in the OT did) Moses, King David,   
   > Abraham etc, are not in Heaven.) And neither did John the Baptist.   
      
   Again you lie, they are already there, they rose from the dead after Christ   
   arose. You can read all about it in the Gospels.   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > Matthew 5:5 "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.   
   > > > We are still in the 7th day, God's rest day.Paul tells us this at   
   > > > Hebrews 4: 1-5,   
   > > >   
   > > > " 1. Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us   
   > > > fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it.   
   > > > 2. For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but   
   > > > the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with   
   > > > faith in those who heard it.   
   > > > 3. For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: "So   
   > > > I swore in My wrath, they shall not enter My rest,'' although the   
   > > > works were finished from the foundation of the world.   
   > > > 4. For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this   
      
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