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   On Sep 27, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:15:16 -0700, in alt.bible No one   
   >   wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 26, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 10:13:55 -0500, McLoon  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 10:36:03 -0400   
   > > > > James   wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > God among infinite things, is a God of mathematics.Why say this?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Adam when created was a perfect man. He showed God that a perfect   
   > > > > > human could not obey his Creator.He sinned and then all his   
   > > > > > imperfections were passed on genetically to us.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So God needed someone equal who COULD obey God. So God sent Jesus   
   (who   
   > > > > > agreed) to be the "second Adam" to prove that a perfect human could   
   > > > > > obey God. Thus a perfect man (Adam) died in sin, and it took a   
   perfect   
   > > > > > man (Jesus) to die for our sins.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > This also means that Jesus could not be God, since that would not   
   > > > > > mathematically be equal.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You present more McLoon maths for this Sunday school curriculum ...   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Why don't you just tie all your sock puppets together into a knotted   
   > > > > rope and climb out of the sewer?   
   > > >   
   > > > And a good day to you to.   
   > > >   
   > > > I can't climb out of something I am not in. Have you ever RESEARCHED   
   > > > the Bible? (not just accept what the churches teach) You might be   
   > > > amazed at what you find.   
   > > >   
   > > > For example, Jesus was created by God   
   > > >   
   > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born   
   > > > of all creation;   
   > >   
   > > You constantly ignore this part of that context.   
   > >   
   > > Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that   
   > > are   
   > > in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or   
   > > principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:   
   >   
   > >   
   > > Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.   
   >   
   > No problem. After God created Jesus as it says at Col 1:15, God used   
   > Jesus in some way to create the rest of things.   
      
   There was nothing of the sort stated and inferred. You were not created, you   
   were born. You are the offspring of your mother. Produced from a seed, like   
   the vegetables you eat. Born after your kind. In this case sinful flesh.   
   Polluted, contaminated, born to die. Jesus is God.   
      
   Jesus was firstborn of His mom, I was too. Before any man was born, Jesus was   
   prophesied by God, who later divested himself of His Glory in order to be   
   born the man Jesus. The first one known to be born. You were recently quoted   
   the verse from Genesis.   
   >   
   > Notice the CONTEXT of Col 1:15. It is things CREATED, of which Jesus   
   > was the first.   
      
   Show us where that is said?   
   >   
   >   
   > -- Revised Standard   
   > Colossians 1:16 for in him all things were created, in heaven and on   
   > earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or   
   > principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and   
   > for him.   
   >   
   > "all things were "CREATED", "thrones", "dominions" "principalities",   
   > "authorities".The context is created things. And Jesus is mentioned as   
   > one of those things.   
      
   Where does it say that? Nowhere.   
   >   
   > And you skipped a responce to 1 Cor 11:3:   
   >   
   > -- Revised Standard   
   > 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to understand that the head of   
   > every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head   
   > of Christ is God.   
      
   You are a sorry lot, I have spoken to you multiple times about that verse and   
   your lies about it.   
   You, like a parrot just ignore the person, and have a knee jerk reaction to   
   sounds that trigger your programmed response. You and every JW. The person   
   before you matters not one wit, just your programmed self-righteous response.   
      
   >   
   > When Paul made that statement, Jesus was already in Heaven. But even   
   > in Heaven, God is head of Jesus, which it should be since Jesus was a   
   > creation of God. (Col 1:15)   
      
   Not at all, Jesus is the Son of the Father, like a prince is heir to the   
   throne of a King. Jesus was not a created being. You have a severe problem of   
   parrotosis.   
   >   
   >   
   > Please think on these Bible truths. They are important to you.   
      
   Not your antichrist doctrines, for which you were accursed as Paul has well   
   stated.   
   >   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
   >   
   > >   
   > > So how about the correlation of all these verses? 10 years I have been   
   > > asking, and even in light of your revolving door doctrines you have yet to   
   > > answer this.   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Thus even in Heaven, God is the head of Jesus.   
   > > >   
   > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to understand that the head of   
   > > > every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head   
   > > > of Christ is God.   
   > > >   
   > > > Think about it.These are Bible truths.   
   > > >   
   > > > Sincerely James   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)