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   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Sep 28, 2023, Rod wrote   
   (in article ):   
      
   > On 9/18/2023 3:13 PM, James wrote:   
   > > Still believe in hellfire?   
   > >   
   > > Many Bibles translate the OT word "sheol" as hell.(or just leave it   
   > > as "sheol") And it talks about people dying and going to sheol. So   
   > > what is sheol?   
   > >   
   > > "What the Tanakh does make it clear, is that Sheol is not the place   
   > > where evil people go. It’is just the place where everyone goes.   
   > > Everyone dies and goes down to Sheol… even the patriarch Jacob knew he   
   > > would go there, eventually. Here was his response after he heard that   
   > > his son Joseph had died (although really, he had not):   
   > >   
   > > Genesis 37:34-35   
   > >   
   > > "So Jacob tore his clothes, and put sackcloth on his loins and mourned   
   > > for his son many days. Then all his sons and all his daughters arose   
   > > to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted. And he said, “Surely I   
   > > will go down to Sheol in mourning for my son.” So his father wept for   
   > > him."   
   > >   
   > > For Jacob this was not a heaven or hell debate… it was merely saying   
   > > that the loss of his son would kill him; it would put him in his   
   > > grave, (not send him to hell). "   
   > > https://hebrewwordlessons.com/2019/10/27/sheol-the-grave-geh   
   nna-hades-hell/   
   > >   
   > > Thus sheol is the grave   
   > > Thus hell is the grave.   
   > >   
   > > You have been lied to by the churches long enough. Accept the Bible   
   > > truth that hell is the GRAVE.Your God is not a sadist that tortures   
   > > forever His disobedient children. He really is a God of love. (1 John   
   > > 4:8)   
   > >   
   > > Sincerely James   
   > > Can your part   
   > > of the earth survive?   
   > > 9/18/23   
   > > Go to jw.org   
   >   
   > I agree with you James. Hell is a heinous lie created by Christianity   
   > and has effected nearly every person on earth in a very negative way.   
   >   
   > For myself &  my family I'd like to see the skin flayed off of every   
   > last christian that has perpetrated this lie and even then that might   
   > not be enough to satisfy my anger.   
   >   
   > I said before that burning someone in hell for eternity isn't just   
   > but the unjust insist that it is just. Their insistence that it is   
   > just reveals the wickedness hiding deep in their own hearts.   
   >   
   > So question for them; Why would you assume that you can scare people   
   > into the worship of a God wicked enough to send someone to eternal   
   > suffering?   
      
   There is a case to be made for "Scaring the hell out of them", ;)   
      
   Jud 1:21-23   
      
   21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord   
   Jesus Christ unto eternal life.   
      
   22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:   
      
   23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the   
   garment spotted by the flesh.   
      
   Jesus, in the Gospels made a big deal out of Hell, Hellfire and the Lake of   
   Fire and brimstone. He warned, cautioned, a lot, and for a good reason as he   
   brought a way of escape that no man can earn.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)