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   From: novalidemail@ymail.com   
      
   On 9/29/2023 10:34 AM, No one wrote:   
   > On Sep 29, 2023, Just a guy wrote   
   > (in article ):   
   >   
   >> On 9/28/2023 7:57 PM, No one wrote:   
   >>> On Sep 28, 2023, Just a guy wrote   
   >>> (in article ):   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 9/28/2023 1:06 PM, No one wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sep 28, 2023, Rod wrote   
   >>>>> (in article ):   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 9/18/2023 3:13 PM, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Still believe in hellfire?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Many Bibles translate the OT word "sheol" as hell.(or just leave it   
   >>>>>>> as "sheol") And it talks about people dying and going to sheol. So   
   >>>>>>> what is sheol?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "What the Tanakh does make it clear, is that Sheol is not the place   
   >>>>>>> where evil people go. It’is just the place where everyone goes.   
   >>>>>>> Everyone dies and goes down to Sheol… even the patriarch Jacob knew   
   he   
   >>>>>>> would go there, eventually. Here was his response after he heard that   
   >>>>>>> his son Joseph had died (although really, he had not):   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Genesis 37:34-35   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "So Jacob tore his clothes, and put sackcloth on his loins and mourned   
   >>>>>>> for his son many days. Then all his sons and all his daughters arose   
   >>>>>>> to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted. And he said, “Surely   
   I   
   >>>>>>> will go down to Sheol in mourning for my son.” So his father wept for   
   >>>>>>> him."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> For Jacob this was not a heaven or hell debate… it was merely saying   
   >>>>>>> that the loss of his son would kill him; it would put him in his   
   >>>>>>> grave, (not send him to hell). "   
   >>>>>>> https://hebrewwordlessons.com/2019/10/27/sheol-the-grave   
   gehenna-hades-h   
   >>>>>>> el   
   >>>>>>> l/   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Thus sheol is the grave   
   >>>>>>> Thus hell is the grave.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You have been lied to by the churches long enough. Accept the Bible   
   >>>>>>> truth that hell is the GRAVE.Your God is not a sadist that tortures   
   >>>>>>> forever His disobedient children. He really is a God of love. (1 John   
   >>>>>>> 4:8)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Sincerely James   
   >>>>>>> Can your part   
   >>>>>>> of the earth survive?   
   >>>>>>> 9/18/23   
   >>>>>>> Go to jw.org   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I agree with you James. Hell is a heinous lie created by Christianity   
   >>>>>> and has effected nearly every person on earth in a very negative way.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> For myself &  my family I'd like to see the skin flayed off of every   
   >>>>>> last christian that has perpetrated this lie and even then that might   
   >>>>>> not be enough to satisfy my anger.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I said before that burning someone in hell for eternity isn't just   
   >>>>>> but the unjust insist that it is just. Their insistence that it is   
   >>>>>> just reveals the wickedness hiding deep in their own hearts.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So question for them; Why would you assume that you can scare people   
   >>>>>> into the worship of a God wicked enough to send someone to eternal   
   >>>>>> suffering?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There is a case to be made for "Scaring the hell out of them", ;)\   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It is far from necessary and not at all just. You can scare   
   >>>> away those who have a sincere interest. There is NO justification   
   >>>> for cruelty and wickedness and both are demonstrated in your hellish   
   >>>> doctrine of hell.   
   >>>   
   >>> This is where the wisdom of God should rule and not the activist mind of   
   >>> some   
   >>> religious persons carnal mind.   
   >>   
   >> Funny and clever! No..you had your say when your scribes created   
   >> a hellish doctrine in an attempt to pass it off as directly from the   
   >> mouth of God.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Had you read the scripture I provided you would see that and not operate   
   >>> from   
   >>> fear, or being PC   
   >>> Jud 1:21-23   
   >>   
   >> Fear? No..disdain and loathing.   
   >   
   > The Son of God taught it extensively as a warning,   
      
      Or so claims a believer....however the scriptures were written by men   
      and not dictated by God, so you have a problem at this point. You have   
      ZERO EVIDENCE that anything was written by this GOD. NONE, ZILCH, NADA.   
      
      
      
      
     it was also taught in the   
   > Old Testament,   
      
      And we owe it all to a group of men that endorsed the doctrine of   
      the divine right of kings.   
      
      
      
   >   
   > “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget   
   > God.” (Psa 9:17)   
   >   
   > "Nations" mean "people" are you one of those?   
   >   
      
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