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From: novalidemail@ymail.com
On 9/29/2023 1:32 PM, No one wrote:
> On Sep 29, 2023, Just a guy wrote
> (in article ):
>
>> On 9/29/2023 11:06 AM, No one wrote:
>>> On Sep 29, 2023, James wrote
>>> (in article<5ojdhi1ub9s7gq0d84sib88ri17jdudpsg@4ax.com>):
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT), "resl...@yahoo.com"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am reproducing this from what I have presented on the website:
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) The Bible hell (sheol/hades) is described as being the realm of
death,
>>>>> that is, the realm of the condition of being dead; it is described as a
>>>>> condition in which there is no work, no device, no knowledge, nor wisdom.
>>>>> (Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 -- many translations render "sheol" as "the grave"
in
>>>>> verse 9).
>>>>>
>>>>> (2) The only Old Testament word translated hell in the King James Version
>>>>> is the Hebrew word transliterated as sheol, to which the New Testament
>>>>> word
>>>>> transliterated as hades corresponds.
>>>>>
>>>>> (3) In the King James translation of the Bible, sheol and hades are
>>>>> translated hell 41 times, grave 32 times and pit 3 times and frequently
>>>>> when translated hell, the margin reads, "or, the grave," or vice versa.
>>>>> (Psalm 49:15; 55:15; 86:13; Isaiah 14:9; Jonah 2:2; 1 Corinthians 15:55;
>>>>> Revelation 20:13) Many translations transliterate the words sheol and
>>>>> hades. A close examination of all the instances sheol and hedes in the
>>>>> Bible shows that the usage of these words are always in agreement with
>>>>> what
>>>>> is stated in Ecclesiastes 9:5,10, except for one instance (Luke 16:23) in
>>>>> which Jesus makes use of the Hellenistic adaptation of hades to present a
>>>>> parabolic parody depicting how the Law and the Prophets were until John.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Luke 16:16.
>>>>>
>>>>> (4) Some translations render forms of the Greek word often transliterated
>>>>> as Gehenna (Valley of Hinnom) as "hell" or "hellfire", but this does not
>>>>> mean the same as sheol/hades.
>>>>>
>>>>> (5) Some translations also render the verb often transliterated as
>>>>> "tataroo" as "cast down to hell", but the word does not mean this at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> See our study: Tartaroo Vs. Tartarus
>>>>>
>>>>> (6) Satan is a liar and the father of the lie. (John 8:44) Satan promised
>>>>> Eve that her disobedience to God would not result in death; that is, that
>>>>> she would not die. He has been using the promise to deceive people all
>>>>> over
>>>>> the world ever since. (Genesis 3:1-4; Revelation 12:9) It is Satan who
has
>>>>> the world believing that a person does not really die, therefore he lies
>>>>> to
>>>>> the world that those who are bad are roasting somewhere for all eternity,
>>>>> thus making God appear to be some kind of fiend. With such a view being
>>>>> broadly presented by a large portion of professed Christians, no wonder
>>>>> thousands are turning away from the Bible and going to neo-paganism,
>>>>> heathen religions and philosophies, agnosticism and atheism. The doctrine
>>>>> of eternal roasting is a blasphemy to the Creator. Indeed, those who
claim
>>>>> to be friends of the Bible are often its worst enemies.
>>>>>
>>>>> (7) Satan uses all kinds of deceptive means to continue his lies,
>>>>> including
>>>>> spiritism, hypnotism, near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> "And when they say to you, 'Seek those who are mediums and wizards, who
>>>>> whisper and mutter,' should not a people seek their God? Should they seek
>>>>> the dead on behalf of the living? To the law and to the testimony! If
they
>>>>> do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in
>>>>> them." -- Isaiah 8:19,20, New King James Version.
>>>>>
>>>>> (8) Many claim that hell is made up of various sections, and that
>>>>> originally paradise was a part of hell, and that another part of hell
>>>>> consisted of eternal torture. Contrary to the idea that any part of the
>>>>> Bible hell is a place of fire, torture, shrieks, etc., the Bible says:
>>>>> "There is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in Sheol, where
>>>>> you are going." - "in death there is no memory of you. In Sheol, who
shall
>>>>> give you thanks?" - "For Sheol can't praise you, death can't celebrate
>>>>> you." -- Ecclesiastes 9:10; Psalm 6:5; Isaiah 38:18.
>>>>>
>>>>> (9) Nevertheless, good people, as well as bad, go to sheol (the Bible
>>>>> hell)
>>>>> at death: e.g., Jacob went down to sheol (Genesis 37:35); Job prayed to
go
>>>>> to sheol, to be hidden there, until the resurrection (Job 14:13). Nor
does
>>>>> the Bible even once depict the good as going to an alleged section of
>>>>> sheol
>>>>> called "paradise" at death, as is claimed by many. In the Bible, paradise
>>>>> is never depicted as a section of sheol or hades. Such a thought has to
be
>>>>> imagined beyond what is written, and added to, and read into what is
>>>>> written. Instead of going to paradise at death, David expected to be in
>>>>> condition in sheol where he could not give thanks to Jehovah and we
>>>>> further
>>>>> read that "Sheol can't praise you, death can't celebrate you." These
>>>>> descriptions of the righteous in sheol do not agree with the added-on
idea
>>>>> that paradise was ever a compartment in sheol. -- Psalm 6:5; Isaiah
38:18.
>>>>>
>>>>> (10) Jesus made his human soul "an offering for sin"; he "poured out his
>>>>> soul to death" (Isaiah 53:10, 12; Matthew 26:38), and descended into the
>>>>> Bible hell, but "his soul was not left in hell [sheol/hades - a state of
>>>>> unknowing]." Thus, Jesus' soul was in the oblivious condition in the
Bible
>>>>> hell while he was dead, but it did not remain there. His, "soul", however
>>>>> in coming out of sheol, was not the sacrificed human soul, a little lower
>>>>> than the angels, which was offered once for all time on behalf of
mankind,
>>>>> but was the exalted glorified soul, for he was put to death in the flesh,
>>>>> but made alive in the spirit. -- Psalm 16:10; Acts 2:27,31,33; 5:31;
>>>>> Philippians 2:9; Hebrews 2:9; 1 Peter 3:18.
>>>>>
>>>>> (11) In old English the word hell simply meant to hide or to cover -
>>>>> helling potatoes meant putting them into pits, helling a house meant
>>>>> covering or thatching it, etc.; the word hell was therefore properly used
>>>>> as signifying the secret or hidden condition of death. It had no
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