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From: none@none.con
On Oct 2, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 09:48:46 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Oct 1, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > On 29 Sep 2023 16:55:08 GMT, servant wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Let's help friend james here, who are the "saved" who go by the
narrow
> > > > > > path
> > > > > > and narrow doar?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Romans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
> > > > > > and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the
dead,
> > > > > > thou shalt be saved.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be
saved.
> > > > Friend james tries a slight of hand:
> > > >
> > > > > Confessing the Lord Jesus, and the name of the Lord (God), apparently
> > > > > is only going to be a few: Mt 7:13,14,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, of whom is the above speaking? God raised Christ bodily,
calling
> > > > up on the name of Christ for thoe to be sqaved; when both verses are
> > > > onsidered. The jw vatican new this; that is why they changed the Lord,
ie.
> > > > Christ to "jehovah" in the 2nd verse to "fix" scripture after the fact
to
> > > > conform to jw vatican invnted doctrines.
> > >
> > > Only for readers of servant:
> > >
> > > First Rom 10:13 in the NWT:
> > >
> > > (Romans 10:13) For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be
> > > saved.” (or Yahweh)
> > >
> > > Is the word "Jehovah" found in the NT Greek manuscripts at Romans
> > > 10:13? No. But the oldest copies that we have is a couple hundred
> > > after the writing.We don't have the originals.
> > >
> > > Also Romans 10:13 is a QUOTE from Joel 2:32a,
> > >
> > > -- Darby's Bible
> > > Joel 2:32a And it shall be that whosoever shall call upon the name of
> > > Jehovah shall be saved:
> > >
> > > (see also Young's Bible, America Standard, ASV, HCSB, LSB, LEB, NOG,
> > > WEB, YLT)
> > >
> > > In most cases the Bible distinguishes between Jehovah and Jesus. But
> > > both are called "Lord" in the Bible.. A good translation will
> > > distinguish between the two.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If we want to put one more pen in the jw vatican baloon, Calling upon
the
> > > > name of Christ is in fact calling upon God, Christ is God.
> > >
> > > Jesus is a creation of God:
> > >
> > > -- Revised Standard
> > > Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born
> > > of all creation;
> > >
> > > The context around Col 1:15 is things CREATED. Such as thrones,
> > > dominions, principalities, powers.
> > >
> > > Don't be led astray by a twisting of the Scriptures. Pray to God to
> > > give you the actual meaning of the Scriptures. He will not let you
> > > down.
> > >
> > > Sincerely James
> > James, they are one and the same. There is no distinction as to who they
> > are.
> > There is a distinction between Jesus and the Heavenly Father, as well as
the
> > Holy Spirit, yet they are all operating with one purpose, and all of the
> > same
> > mind and attitude. They are the Godhead.
>
> The third century Trinity is not found in the Bible.
Who said it was??
>
>
> The Bible says God one. (Deut 6:4) He is only one Jehovah. One person.
> God is not suffering from multiple personalities as some humans do.
> God is full and complete in Himself.
Hear. Note: Shema Yisrael, Yehowah, Elohainoo, Yehowah aichod, "Hear, Israel,
Jehovah, our God, is one Jehovah." On this passage the Jews lay great stress;
and it is one of the four passages which they write on their phylacteries. On
the word Elohim, Simeon Ben Joachi says; "Come and see the mystery of the
word Elohim: there are three degrees, and each degree is by itself alone, and
yet they are all one, and joined together in one, and are not divided from
each other" (Zohar. Lev. Sect. 16, Col 116).
one. Heb. echad (S# H259): A numeral from S# H258; properly united, that is,
one; or (as an ordinal) first (Strong); it means one in the same sense as our
English word and may be used of one in our numerical sense (+Ecc 4:8) or a
compound unity, one made up of others: Gen 1:5, one of seven; Gen 2:11, one
of four; Gen 2:21, one of twenty-four; **Gen 2:24, one made up of two; Gen
3:22, one of the three; Gen 11:6, one people gathered to build the tower of
Babel but clearly diverse; Gen 34:16; Gen 34:22, one people made up of
Shechemites and Israelites; Gen 41:25-26, the dream is one though made up of
two dreams; Gen 49:16, one of twelve; Exo 24:3, all the people answered with
one voice; Exo 36:13, one tabernacle made up of multiple components (see also
Exo 26:6; Exo 26:11; Exo 36:18); Num 13:23, one of a cluster; Jos 22:20,
Achan was not the only one who died for his sin; 2Sa 7:23, one nation of many
individuals; Psa 34:20, +Jer 10:8 mg; Zec 11:8, one month comprised of 30
days. Contrast yahed, *S# H3173, unique, a single or only one: Gen 22:2; Gen
22:12; Gen 22:16, Jdg 11:34, +Psa 22:20; Psa 25:16; Psa 35:17; Psa 68:6, Pro
4:3, Jer 6:26, Amo 8:10, Zec 12:10, See Psa 133:1, "One in essence, and the
only object of our worship" (Matthew Poole).
>
> Jesus is His Son.They think the same way on things, thus are "one" in
> thought and manner.
I have told you that many times, that the Godhead is unified as one. Never
opposing one another,
>
> The Holy Spirit is God's active force for accomplishing things. Look
> up meaning of the word "spirit".Other than spirit creatures like the
> angels, it is a FORCE. God's active force.
The Holy Spirit inspires, empowers men, a giver of gifts, the one who
convicts men of sin, who says nothing of Himself.
He also resides in the hearts of Men that have been Born of God.
Be very careful of what you say and what you correlate the Holy Spirit with,
lest you commit the unpardonable sin.
>
> Sincerely James
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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