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XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
From: none@none.con
On Oct 4, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2023 23:38:53 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Oct 3, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > On Mon, 02 Oct 2023 12:59:58 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Oct 2, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article):
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 09:48:46 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 1, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 29 Sep 2023 16:55:08 GMT, servant wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Let's help friend james here, who are the "saved" who go
by the
> > > > > > > > > > narrow
> > > > > > > > > > path
> > > > > > > > > > and narrow doar?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Romans
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord
Jesus,
> > > > > > > > > > and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him
from the
> > > > > > > > > > dead,
> > > > > > > > > > thou shalt be saved.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord
shall be
> > > > > > > > > > saved.
> > > > > > > > Friend james tries a slight of hand:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Confessing the Lord Jesus, and the name of the Lord (God),
apparently
> > > > > > > > > is only going to be a few: Mt 7:13,14,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Indeed, of whom is the above speaking? God raised Christ
bodily,
> > > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > up on the name of Christ for thoe to be sqaved; when both
verses are
> > > > > > > > onsidered. The jw vatican new this; that is why they changed
the Lord,
> > > > > > > > ie.
> > > > > > > > Christ to "jehovah" in the 2nd verse to "fix" scripture after
the fact
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > conform to jw vatican invnted doctrines.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Only for readers of servant:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > First Rom 10:13 in the NWT:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (Romans 10:13) For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah
will be
> > > > > > > saved.” (or Yahweh)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is the word "Jehovah" found in the NT Greek manuscripts at Romans
> > > > > > > 10:13? No. But the oldest copies that we have is a couple hundred
> > > > > > > after the writing.We don't have the originals.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also Romans 10:13 is a QUOTE from Joel 2:32a,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Darby's Bible
> > > > > > > Joel 2:32a And it shall be that whosoever shall call upon the
name of
> > > > > > > Jehovah shall be saved:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (see also Young's Bible, America Standard, ASV, HCSB, LSB, LEB,
NOG,
> > > > > > > WEB, YLT)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In most cases the Bible distinguishes between Jehovah and Jesus.
But
> > > > > > > both are called "Lord" in the Bible.. A good translation will
> > > > > > > distinguish between the two.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If we want to put one more pen in the jw vatican baloon,
Calling upon
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > name of Christ is in fact calling upon God, Christ is God.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jesus is a creation of God:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Revised Standard
> > > > > > > Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the
first-born
> > > > > > > of all creation;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The context around Col 1:15 is things CREATED. Such as thrones,
> > > > > > > dominions, principalities, powers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don't be led astray by a twisting of the Scriptures. Pray to God
to
> > > > > > > give you the actual meaning of the Scriptures. He will not let
you
> > > > > > > down.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sincerely James
> > > > > > James, they are one and the same. There is no distinction as to
who they
> > > > > > are.
> > > > > > There is a distinction between Jesus and the Heavenly Father, as
well as
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > Holy Spirit, yet they are all operating with one purpose, and all
of the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > mind and attitude. They are the Godhead.
> > > > >
> > > > > The third century Trinity is not found in the Bible.
> > > >
> > > > Who said it was??
> > >
> > > The churches.
> >
> > Not all, so why bring it up?
>
> It never hurts to bring up Bible truths.
Where does the Bible speak on the trinity?
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Bible says God one. (Deut 6:4) He is only one Jehovah. One
person.
> > > > > God is not suffering from multiple personalities as some humans do.
> > > > > God is full and complete in Himself.
> > > >
> > > > Hear. Note: Shema Yisrael, Yehowah, Elohainoo, Yehowah aichod, "Hear,
> > > > Israel,
> > > > Jehovah, our God, is one Jehovah." On this passage the Jews lay great
> > > > stress;
> > > > and it is one of the four passages which they write on their
phylacteries.
> > > > On
> > > > the word Elohim, Simeon Ben Joachi says; "Come and see the mystery of
the
> > > > word Elohim: there are three degrees, and each degree is by itself
alone,
> > > > and
> > > > yet they are all one, and joined together in one, and are not divided
from
> > > > each other" (Zohar. Lev. Sect. 16, Col 116).
> > > >
> > > > one. Heb. echad (S# H259): A numeral from S# H258; properly united,
that
> > > > is,
> > > > one; or (as an ordinal) first (Strong); it means one in the same sense
as
> > > > our
> > > > English word and may be used of one in our numerical sense (+Ecc 4:8)
or a
> > > > compound unity, one made up of others: Gen 1:5, one of seven; Gen 2:11,
> > > > one
> > > > of four; Gen 2:21, one of twenty-four; **Gen 2:24, one made up of two;
Gen
> > > > 3:22, one of the three; Gen 11:6, one people gathered to build the
tower
> > > > of
> > > > Babel but clearly diverse; Gen 34:16; Gen 34:22, one people made up of
> > > > Shechemites and Israelites; Gen 41:25-26, the dream is one though made
up
> > > > of
> > > > two dreams; Gen 49:16, one of twelve; Exo 24:3, all the people answered
> > > > with
> > > > one voice; Exo 36:13, one tabernacle made up of multiple components
(see
> > > > also
> > > > Exo 26:6; Exo 26:11; Exo 36:18); Num 13:23, one of a cluster; Jos
22:20,
> > > > Achan was not the only one who died for his sin; 2Sa 7:23, one nation
of
> > > > many
> > > > individuals; Psa 34:20, +Jer 10:8 mg; Zec 11:8, one month comprised of
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