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   From: seaviews7@yahoo.com   
      
   On 10/9/2023 10:45 AM, servant scribbled:   
   > In this post we look at the context of use for the greek word used for the   
   > roman cross; those who killed Christ after all, no?  Coming soon a test in   
   > history for the shape of the cross used by the apostolic fathers and their   
   > disciples.   
   >   
   > The jw vatican says it wass a "torture stake",ie. asingle upright wooden   
   > item.   
   >   
   > The greek word used in the NT has the basic meaning of "pole".  The same   
   > wourd is used for the mast of a ship.  That also applied to the   
   > crosspieces,ie. woodn yards to which the sails attach.   
   >   
   > Also applies to a fencepost, across which was attached wooden pieces to   
   > prevent movement through the fence.  Other vertical wooden items used the   
   > same word to stand for the entire wooden structure.   
   >   
   > The NT word does not describe an entire wooden item; as above; but the   
   > jewish writers using greek could also use "pole" to mean the entire   
   > wooden structure..".   
   >   
   > Thus the jw   
   > vatican "torture stake" is wrong, the intention of the cross; by any greek   
   > name  was excution/death; not torture alone.  People were tortued by   
   > flogging which ripped away skin and other flesh before being attached to   
   > the roman cross structure.  The wooden item Christ carried across both   
   > flogged sholders was the cross piece of the roman item.   
      
      
   its not really that important.  torture,  what torture/.  Many have gone   
   against and stood doing pagan rituals against the true church.   
   Causing all kinds of suffering.  Some were caught, and put to the stake.   
   today its the same,  the ones standing in Rome are attacking Israel and   
   gave them the terrorist the money to do it even,  the Joe Biden wonder   
   boy ritual.  The queer sodomy man.  It is very sad the damage he has   
   done to this country.  He had 32 years in Congress to do it.  Of course   
   a dum African like Obama would listen to him.   Now they are both being   
   gone after.  Its their turn.   It never ends the fight for Christianity   
   And seems like, it never ends those that listen to the devil.   
      
   Soon, God will come, and no one, will stop Him from doing that.  It does   
   not matter if they believe it or not.   I believe, it had a cross member   
   yes.  But many died on a pole also.  I do not think they were specific   
   on which one to use when they were killing them.  Why should you be?   
   The shroud in Turin tells you quite a bit about it.  But there are those   
   that will tell you its not original.  Nor is how they can they can tell   
   you that.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)