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From: Robert@none.non
On Oct 18, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 06:32:08 -0700, Robert wrote:
>
> > On Oct 18, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article<1afvii50b55mqs40dljopacf5lh663ovmo@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:42:23 -0700, Robert wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Oct 12, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article<7pufii1nkn7rccrlorpotjppni7rsteen3@4ax.com>):
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 08:12:45 -0700, Robert wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 3, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 03 Oct 2023 17:20:56 GMT, servant wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is better to be in the truth then to swallow and repeat a
lie.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friend james can answer a question about the origin of the word
> > > > > > > > "cross"
> > > > > > > > used in NT scripture:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He said historically sometime later after the NT was written
its shape
> > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > changed in meaning to the roman cross exicution device from
greek
> > > > > > > > "pole".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That explains why 99.99 percent of transilations use the word
"cross"
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > mean the roman shape device instead of an erect greek pole .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friend james; let's test that theory, when was it "changed"
and by
> > > > > > > > whom?
> > > > > > > > I'm not asking about the greek word for "pole"; just when the
change
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > meaning happend and who did it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It certainly happened before we got the oldest NT Greek Bible
> > > > > > > documents.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It might have been influenced by the first profest Christian
ruler
> > > > > > > Constantine the Great, History says that in 312 CE he had a
vision of
> > > > > > > a fiery cross in the heavens. But I am just speculating.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All I know is that the Bible word used in the NT that the
churches
> > > > > > > translate as "cross" is "staurus" and it means a single pole.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then why are you always speaking of the cross. If you were right
and
> > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > else including history is wrong, then you should be talking of
Christ
> > > > > > on a
> > > > > > stick, always.
> > > > >
> > > > > When that subject comes up about what instrument Jesus was impaled
on,
> > > > > I say an upright pole (staurus)
> > > >
> > > > You are sick, Jesus was never impaled on any pole.
> > >
> > > Then when translations use the word "cross" why is the Greek word
> > > "staurus" used there which means an upright pole?
> > >
> > > JW's are just showing what the Greek word used in the Bible stands
> > > for.
> >
> > You said he was impaled on a pole, like a Hot Dog on a stick. Never has
> > such a thing happened.
>
> Don't be so sure. Notice "upright pole":
It was your statement.
>
>
> "The Greek word for cross, [stau·ros'],
When you carry a beam to the pole and it was attached it becomes a cross. When
history shows crosses being used then what or why the argument?
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You claim all scripture is corrupted but yours, yet you use
'corrupted
> > > > > > scriptures' to make you points and support your dogma, what a
hypocrite
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > stated beliefs. Why do you not walk according to your beliefs? As
we all
> > > > > > see
> > > > > > the JW as wolves in sheep's clothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually they are a sheep in sheep's clothing.-
> > > >
> > > > Of course you would say that, your definition of truth is what you
think
> > > > at
> > > > the moment.
> > >
> > > If you wish to condemn, at least say something true.
> >
> > That is the statement you used to explain why you "Do not lie". If it now
> > seems
> > to you like that is not truth, good. Since now you see what we all have
seen
> > all along when you used that excuse to explain why you were "really not
> > lying".
>
> I don't lie. I have a lot of weaknesses, but lying is not one of them.
> I firmly believe what I say is the truth. (unless I get into humor,
> etc)
I have seen you lie. Multiple times over 20+ years.
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You claim to be Jehovahs witnesses, you claim that Jehovah and
Jesus are
> > > > > > different, that one is a God the other is not. Yet you cannot shut
up
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > the man Jesus, and using him as the focus point of being a
'christian'
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > thereby shunning Jehovah as you witness for Christ and HIS Kingdom.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually you have no idea what you are talking about with JW's. They
> > > > > praise Jehovah day in and day out. They sanctify His NAME according
to
> > > > > Jesus' model prayer. Do you?
> > > >
> > > > Jesus said to "pray after this manner" he did not say to repeat the
prayer
> > > > like the RCC does.
> > >
> > > Yes, the idea conveyed by Jesus was to praise God's name. Again, do
> > > you? (we don't recite the Lord's prayer. We just do what it says)
> >
> > No, he said to enter into the courts with praise making your request known.
>
> Courts?
>
> >
> > How can you do what it says, when you do not even believe on him because
you
> > say he is not God?
>
> I just relay what the Bible teaches and usually show the Bible
> Scriptures as support.
Then look it op
>
>
> Sincerely James
> Can all wars be stopped?
> 10/18/23
> Go to jw.org
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Have a good one.
> > >
> > > Sincerely James
> > > Can all wars be stopped?
> > > 10/18/23
> > > Go to jw.org
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