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   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Nov 15, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On 13 Nov 2023 20:52:04 GMT, servant wrote:   
   >   
   > >   
   > > "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to   
   > > His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the   
   > > resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible   
   > > and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who   
   > > are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be   
   > > revealed in the last time." 1 Peter 1:3-5   
   > >   
   > > The jw vatican says the 144000 in Rev. are the 1st class jw who will rule   
   > > over the jw 2nd class in the new earthly kingdom. which is to be setup   
   > > after all non-jw are murdered when Christ returns.   
   >   
   > To servant's readers:   
   >   
   > If you are going to criticize, at least get the facts straight.   
   >   
   > The 144,000 are not all JW's. The gathering of them started around the   
   > 1st century, long before the JW organization arose. So there would be   
   > many non-JW's.   
      
   For those that study the Bible,....   
      
   Rev 7:2-6   
      
   2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the   
   living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was   
   given to hurt the earth and the sea,   
      
   3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have   
   sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.   
      
   4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an   
   hundred and fortyand four thousand of all the tribes of the children of   
   Israel.   
      
   5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben   
   were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.   
      
   6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim   
   were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve   
   thousand.   
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   Rev 14:1-5   
      
   1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an   
   hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their   
   foreheads.   
      
   2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the   
   voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their   
   harps:   
      
   3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four   
   beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and   
   fortyand four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.   
      
   4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.   
   These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were   
   redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.   
      
   5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before   
   the throne of God.   
      
   Not one of these are related to the JW's of these times in the world.   
      
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   > Sincerely James,   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)