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   From: seaviews7@yahoo.com   
      
   it was foretold in the old testament that of Christ's birth to come, so   
   your very wrong about that. Source Its not the source.   Christ is   
   mentioned in the true Holy Bible 543 times.  The 1st book of kings,  2   
   book of kings, psalms of david 2 places, 2 nd chapter and in the 83 rd   
   chapter,  Lamenations of Jeremiah, also in  Book of Daniel,   
   and in the Book of Habacuc. All 3 prophets an also Baruch the prophet;.   
   Then the rest is in the new testament several times and in many places   
   of course.   
      
   And if i use the name Jesus instead, it all changes to how many times,   
   its more times even because of Jesus the son of Josedec.  the Jesus that   
   lived before real Jesus came and was High Priest.   
      
   You all are very dumb About Him.,  YOU use bad books, and We the true   
   Church told you not to.  Do not blame your stupidity on the true   
   Catholic Church.   
      
      
   On 12/12/2023 9:05 AM, servaant scribbled:   
   > Hmm, the NT is the source of Christ's birth.  Does that mean the below   
   > makes theNT an ungodly source for discussing the "wise men" in ?association   
   > with the glory of His birth?   
   >   
   > The jw vatican's nwt "translation" has the "wise men" and their role in the   
   > nativity with only a positive presentation of them.  That includes their   
   > role in protecting the newborn from death and making an effort to worship   
   > Him.  as the reason for the long trip.   
   >   
   > Note the false broken forced logic; nT presents "wise men" in a positive   
   > light; therefore christmas not to bee observed.   
   >   
   >> 1) "Wise men" were pagan Persian astrologers and sorcerers. Things   
   >> condemned by God.   
   >>   
   >> 2) Bible doesn't say how many  pagan Persian astrologers and sorcerers   
   >> there were.   
   >>   
   >> 3) 'Star' first led them to the evil murderous Herod.   
   >>   
   >> 4) Herod plans a murder plot using the astrologers as dupes. Tells   
   >> them to find Jesus, and then return, so he can pay him homage also.   
   >>   
      
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