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   Message 191,682 of 192,254   
   Michael Christ to James   
   Re: If anything is random, then God... (   
   30 Dec 23 12:55:47   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy, alt.religion.christianity   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com   
      
   On 30/12/2023 8:45 am, James wrote:   
   > On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 07:58:41 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 27/12/2023 7:18 am, James wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 06:13:25 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 20/11/2023 2:51 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 08:16:43 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...is not God.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> If you can't get that, then you are an unbeliever, no matter how many   
   >>>>>> bible verses you quote.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Sinner James still trying to stubbornly sinfully promote his sinner   
   >>>> bible interpretations as though there is no flaw in him, no account of   
   >>>> imperfection in him, and writes:   
   >>>>> Then that means you don't take the Scriptures seriously. Like this one   
   >>>>> which comments on your statement about randomness:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> -- New King James   
   >>>>> Ecclesiastes 9:11  I returned and saw under the sun that The race is   
   >>>>> not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise,   
   >>>>> nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men of skill; but   
   >>>>> time and chance happen to them all.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yes, by ignoring this inspired Scripture (2 Tim 3:16), you can   
   >>>>> continue in your own beliefs.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 2 Tim 3:16 so that what?  To what end?  2 Tim 3:SEVENTEEN.  It does not   
   >>>> say a man must be endlessly half-way housed in endlessly being reproved,   
   >>>> indoctrinated, corrected, instructed in righteousness; the Holy Spirit   
   >>>> comes and dwells in a man once he has been.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You are not made perfect in understanding, Sinner.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Hear, Sinner............   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Time and chance is subject to God; God is not subject to time and chance.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "If anything is random, then God is not God."   
   >>>   
   >>> Then God lied at Ec 9:11?   
   >>   
   >> A silly thing to say.   
   >   
   > Yes, yours is. (:>(   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Solomon is not God.   
   >   
   > Why not. False religions make up all kinds of things.   
   >   
   >   
   >   >It is bible allegory, contrast if you will.   
   >> Solomon is speaking about himself, he is not calling himself God.  "I   
   >> returned (to a [my] starting point)..."   
   >   
   > He is calling himself random "chance"? No, he is stating that random   
   > chance happens. Notice again:   
   >   
   > -- New King James   
   > Ecclesiastes 9:11  I returned and saw under the sun that The race is   
   > not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise,   
   > nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men of skill; but   
   > time and chance happen to them all.   
   >   
   > -- American Standard   
   > Ecclesiastes 9:11  I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is   
   > not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to   
   > the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men   
   > of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.   
   >   
   > -- Living Bible   
   > Ecclesiastes 9:11  Again I looked throughout the earth and saw that   
   > the swiftest person does not always win the race, nor the strongest   
   > man the battle, and that wise men are often poor, and skillful men are   
   > not necessarily famous; but it is all by chance, by happening to be at   
   > the right place at the right time.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> Sorry, I can't accept that.   
   >>   
   >> What?  Truth is subject to your "constantly sinning" perception?   
   >   
   > Yes, just like Paul, the 12 apostles, and all of Jesus other   
   > followers. They were all "constantly sinning".   
   >   
   >>   
   >> God is God, Buddy, and there is nothing higher than Him...not even you.   
   >   
   > But you didn't eliminate yourself. Why??   
   >   
   > Sincerely James,   
   > 2023: Why so   
   > many problems?   
   > Go to jw.org   
   > 12/29/23	   
      
   There is nothing random in the universe.  If there was God is not God.   
      
   I know it doesn't register in your constantly sinning interpretation of   
   the scriptures, but that is too bad.   
      
   I suggest you become a believer, otherwise random might get you!  :-).   
      
      
      
      
      
   Michael Christ   
      
   --   
   Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John   
   10:30  I and Father are one.   
      
   Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were   
   YET sinners, Christ died for us.   
      
   Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it   
   is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.   
      
   Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt   
   are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.   
      
   Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that   
   hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.   
      
   "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."   
      
   "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."   
      
   "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."   
      
   "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving   
   God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,   
   sin is not what you do; it is what you are."   
      
   "Compromise will condemn you."   
      
   "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."   
      
   "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."   
      
   "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to   
   know that?"   
      
   "The way of truth is the testimony of life."   
      
   "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall   
   where God intends."   
      
   "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."   
      
   "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all   
   live, by faith."   
      
   "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."   
      
   "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look   
   ahead."   
      
   "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."   
      
   "Priority is everything."   
      
   "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."   
      
   "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander   
   it or to place it where it truly belongs."   
      
   "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."   
      
   "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to   
   an ignorant straw man."   
      
   "Wait, rest, be still, and know."   
      
   "No man can wash his own hands!!!"   
      
   "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,   
   and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."   
      
   The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the   
   obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"   
      
   "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."   
      
   "Man is not the centre of being."   
      
   "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."   
      
   "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."   
      
      
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